# What happened in Wil Wheaton's deleated scene in "Nemesis"?

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**Created:** [September 5, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632 "2003-09-05T01:09:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/1 "2003-09-05T01:09:01Z")

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I know that they filmed a scene with Wesely but it was cut from the movie and did not show up in the DVD. SO what happened in the scene?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/2 "2003-09-05T03:09:19Z")

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Hopefully it was bunt to a crisp.

What was in the movie had no relation to the series.

Wes was sitting there in a Starfleet uniform and nobody seemed to have any questions on how that ‘being some sort of god thing’ was working out.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/3 "2003-09-05T03:24:39Z")

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Maybe a throwaway line or two about what he did with the Traveler to make us geeks nitpick ad-infintum as we’re wont to do but otherwise, probably nothing.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/4 "2003-09-05T04:38:49Z")

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They didn’t kill Wesley? Then I don’t care.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/5 "2003-09-05T05:45:40Z")

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I had heard a rumor that Ashley Judd was supposed to be there as Wesley’s date.

I was so disappointed when she didn’t show up.

And she’s not gonna be in the Catwoman movie either.

Sigh…

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/6 "2003-09-05T07:13:40Z")

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Mmm…Ashley Judd.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/7 "2003-09-05T12:47:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> \*\*Mmm…Ashley Judd. \*\*

“Your neutrinos are drifting.”

Mmm… Ensign Lefler.

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**Author:** ![Thranduil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@Thranduil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thranduil)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/8 "2003-09-05T15:18:18Z")

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who cares about Wil Wheaton,  
The best line is what Guinan said about being married so many times in her conversation with Geordi

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**Author:** ![KXL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@KXL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KXL)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/9 "2003-09-05T16:42:59Z")

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I don’t know about the film clip (maybe wait for a NEMESIS: Special Edition DVD in a few years), but the good folks at Pocket Books are giving their spin on things. Starting in January, there will be 12 TNG novels, each titled “A Time To…” (Be Born, Die, Sow, Harvest, etc. ) which will follow our heroes up to the events in NEMESIS. So we will get to see what led up to Riker getting his own ship and, yes, why Wes and Worf were back in uniform. etc.

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**Author:** ![Tree\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Tree\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tree_Boy)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/10 "2003-09-05T16:51:55Z")

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-Major Hijack-

I didn’t want to start a thread just to get this question answered, but it has bugged me for a while now:

In the movie “First Contact,” the Borg queen is killed when the plasma is vented into the room, destroying all organic material.

Flash forward to the final episode of Voyager. The queen is alive and then is killed again along with the elder Janeway when the Borg transport hub is destroyed.

So, how is this possible? Did she not die the first time? Is there more than one queen?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/11 "2003-09-05T17:00:26Z")

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Ah, **Treeboy**. You think so lineally.

(Otherwise known as ignore the continuity holes.)

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/12 "2003-09-05T20:12:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Tree Boy \*  
> In the movie “First Contact,” the Borg queen is killed when the plasma is vented into the room, destroying all organic material.
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> Flash forward to the final episode of Voyager. The queen is alive and then is killed again along with the elder Janeway when the Borg transport hub is destroyed.
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> So, how is this possible? Did she not die the first time? Is there more than one queen?

They specifically said in _First Contact_ that that was not the first time the Borg Queen had been apparently destroyed. She was also on the cube in “Best of Both Worlds”. When Picard pointed this out, she said, “You think in such three-dimensional terms.” I took this to mean that they have some way of preserving the Queen across spacetime if she gets destroyed. Yeah, they didn’t explain it, but they did establish it, so it’s not really a _continuity_ issue. Maybe a silly plot device issue.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/13 "2003-09-05T20:33:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KXL \*  
> \*\*I don’t know about the film clip (maybe wait for a NEMESIS: Special Edition DVD in a few years), but the good folks at Pocket Books are giving their spin on things. Starting in January, there will be 12 TNG novels, each titled “A Time To…” (Be Born, Die, Sow, Harvest, etc. ) which will follow our heroes up to the events in NEMESIS. So we will get to see what led up to Riker getting his own ship and, yes, why Wes and Worf were back in uniform. etc. \*\*

Guh. I am _so_ sick of all the series that the Trek novels have ran with in the last few years. The only two that were worthwhile were the relaunch of DS9 and the creation of The New Frontier. The others are trash.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/14 "2003-09-05T23:02:16Z")

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I’ve assumed the the Borg Queen isn’t at all biological in spite of her appearance. I think she’s essentially a program running through all Borg ships that can create a body as needed. Maybe the program is the mind of the original cyborg Queen.

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**Author:** ![Caprigenus\_Chevre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@Caprigenus\_Chevre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caprigenus_Chevre)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/15 "2003-09-06T15:51:10Z")

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Supposedly the answer to the multiple Borg Queens was successfully done in the recent Voyager relaunch book “Fathest Shore” by Christie Golden. I have yet to read it, though if some knows, do tell (of course do the spoiler space thingy for the other posters).

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/16 "2003-09-06T17:24:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by photopat \*  
> \*\*Maybe the program is the mind of the original cyborg Queen. \*\*

Who lies on a couch in a condo on Rissa eatting bon-bons and signalling ships at sea with her jewelry while she waits to have her counciousness duplicate over space time.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/17 "2003-09-06T21:40:29Z")

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Wil Wheaton talked a little about it over in some Fark thread about a boobies link with a redheard dressed up a a red shirt.

Maybe he talks more about his work at his [webpage.](http://www.WilWheaton.net) I can’t get the site to work now though.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/18 "2003-09-06T23:12:47Z")

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Fern, I don’t think the Mods let you link to drugs, porn, or Wheaton.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/19 "2003-09-07T00:17:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by KXL \*  
> \*\*I don’t know about the film clip (maybe wait for a NEMESIS: Special Edition DVD in a few years), but the good folks at Pocket Books are giving their spin on things. Starting in January, there will be 12 TNG novels, each titled “A Time To…” (Be Born, Die, Sow, Harvest, etc. ) which will follow our heroes up to the events in NEMESIS. So we will get to see what led up to Riker getting his own ship and, yes, why Wes and Worf were back in uniform. etc. \*\*

I’m guessing that “A Time To Give The ‘Star Trek’ Universe A Rest Because It’s Getting Just A LITTLE Repetitive” isn’t one of the titles.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-in-wil-wheatons-deleated-scene-in-nemesis/199632/20 "2003-09-07T02:36:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*Fern, I don’t think the Mods let you link to drugs, porn, or Wheaton. \*\*

I am extremely saddened that I don’t know a good word for a person who has wheat allergy. Oh we all would have had a good chuckle.

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