# What happened to Bricker?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 25, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249 "2018-08-25T09:51:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/201 "2018-08-31T18:47:28Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I’m starting to suspect that **Huey Freeman** is actually a white Freeper-type troll.
[Dumbass](https://imgur.com/a/S4LgVrn)
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/202 "2018-08-31T19:02:33Z")
> [@Alessan](#):
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> See, that’s what you don’t get. That’s why people accuse you of debating like a lawyer instead of like a human being. You don’t resolve a dispute using objective measures - you do it using subjective ones. You argue and argue - subjectively - until one or more of you changes their mind.
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> Do you get that?
Does it involve holding hands and singing Kumbaya?
Then, no. That’s not something that sways me, and I’m not inclined to sway others that way. The accuracy of your world-view is not improved by the method you describe.
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### Author:  [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/203 "2018-08-31T19:03:29Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I did not say that a woman needs a woman, or a man a man, or an Italian American needs an Italian american. I did not say these things, not at all.
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> What I did say is that minorities had no voice in the political process. They can elect a white guy or a woman, or whoever. The point is, is that there is someone who was actually elected by them, which means that they have a voice. If there is no one that is elected by the minorities, then they have no voice, no one to represent their interests.
Alright, I misunderstood you.
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> This was especially important when minorities were coming out of a time when they were denied the ability to vote at all, based on poll tests and taxes. Whether it is still necessary is something that I am happy to revisit. Whether it was necessary at the time is not. In any case, as stated, the decision to use redistricting in order to ensure minorities were not shut out of the political process harms democrats and helps Republicans.
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> You think that it is wack that minorities needed a voice in the government. Do you think that it is wack that we want to avoid a return to the widespread intentional disenfranchisement that was prevalent within living memory?
I don’t think it’s wack for people to vote. I’d like to see greater civic participation and education.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/204 "2018-08-31T19:05:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Does it involve holding hands and singing Kumbaya?
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> Then, no. That’s not something that sways me, and I’m not inclined to sway others that way.
This is like the tone deaf guy who doesn’t believe in music and who mocks anyone who professes to find music of value. I mean, it sucks that the entire facet of life in which people engage in reasoned discussions without the safety net of law to fall back on is unavailable to you, but your mockery of others who can access this arena of human experience is just dumb.
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### Author:  [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/205 "2018-08-31T19:06:19Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, keep in mind, there are no _restrictions_ on voting. No one is being “disenfranchised”, they are still allowed to vote, so legal and Constitutional. So you can stop saying “disenfranchised” every ten words or so, because you totally lost that one!
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> No voter is being treated unequally here, it is the dirt they stand on that is being reshaped and formed to a partisan purpose. This distinction is important, because states than have more dirt than people would not have equal power if this sacred principle were ignored.
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> Did I say “sacred”? Clearly, that should be “Sacred”, as befits an immortal and divine document, which must be worshipped uncritically. I propose we adopt the “ **Bricker** protocol”, and we should genuflect when we type the word “Constitution”. After all, what other Power could render an injustice into something that must be protected and defended. We could think of this as the transubstantiation of equality, a cornerstone of American political theology.
Your ridiculous clowning aside, I know you have a role to play as self-appointed forum jester, if you paid attention in history class you would realize that to form a nation from pre-existing states a couple compromises were of high utility. Guess what? If you don’t like those compromises you can get to work on drafting some amendments.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/206 "2018-08-31T19:08:56Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#):
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> Nope.
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> Kuchiyose No Jutsu
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> Take it from here, Urbandictionary.
Uh, okay, sure. That’s really, really not what I got from the Sunken Place, but Urban Dictionary is a pretty authoritative cite, so…
…so like I said, you metaphor differently from me.
At which point, the question becomes, why the hell should a non-woke person who’s got every advantage on every axis (male, straight, gender-conforming, and above all wealthy) get coddled, just because on one axis (race) he’s not in the power-group? Do you give white women the same “poor you” treatment when they call the cops on black people? Poor white dudes the same “ain’t their fault” treatment when they vote for Trump? Gay dudes the same treatment when they say some appalling racist shit?
Also, a minor side-question: how many times can you repeat a witticism that’s really just a quotation from a bit of obscure fandom before it’s no longer witty? In my youth I decided that it was “one, maybe, if you’re really on-point with the reference.” Your naruto quote just about qualifies for a senior discount by this point. Something to consider.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/207 "2018-08-31T19:09:56Z")
You forgot “neener-neener” and “Good luck with that!”. Also, you owe **Bricker** a nickel.
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### Author:  [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/208 "2018-08-31T19:16:07Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#):
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> I don’t try, that’s the fucking point. First, why would any person of color after reading this forum try to engage with a ragtag team of white supremacists? Why would a person of color contribute to a forum where the first thread is “Is OJ guilty?”, “South Africa meltdown!!”, “Chicago violence is off the charts”, or “Controversial encounters with law enforcement” which reads like a pornographic list of black people killed by law enforcement. Me personally? I was over “trying” after one you animals smeared a person of color by posting their real-life picture on this forum; all the while, white liberals looked with on with concerned indifference. So that’s _that_. Despite all of this, there are no current threads on your opioid epidemic, no current threads on your culture that celebrates guns, no current self-reflective threads on how the the ills of the white community (of which, they are many), no current threads on the white kids shootings that occurred this past month, not even a thread on the white dude who killed his family and threw the corpses in crude oil. Nope. Instead, it’s all anti-black shit or anti-liberal shit (which has become a dog whistle for black/minorities anyway). So\* that’s \*why I don’t try.
Talking about MrDibble’s picture? He put it out there. Now, personally, I think there should be some sense of decorum even in the Pit. That sort of behavior is borderline unhinged. But you are right. The so-called white community has plenty of problems and if you start threads on them I am sure people would agree.
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> Second, why do you try? Why do go from thread-to-thread demeaning people of color and wrapping yourself in the Tomi Lahren flag of conservatism? Did a person of color take your job or cut you off in traffic? Were you taught these [behaviors as a child](https://youtu.be/tLBWpO0MTuU?t=8) or were they learned in the Ivy League halls of Prager University? You might have conned these white folks into perpetually fighting your ignorance, but I’m just gawking at you.
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> Finally, to answer your question, I read (and post occasionally) because as someone who works in environment where I’m the only person of color, I find it educational (and fascinating) to see what white people really think under the cloak of anonymity. It’s also cool to see white fragility, such as your comment, happen in real-time on a message board.
I don’t demean people of color because of their color. I demean certain behaviors or ideas. I don’t think it’s fragility discussing counterproductive behavior or refusing to be manipulated from discussing an issue regardless of it’s unPCness.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/209 "2018-08-31T19:29:06Z")
If I may speculate on Bricker’s motivation (and that of others who share some of his views), it occurs to me that revenge may be involved. For several decades, there’s been a pervasive myth that a systematic effort is underway to take America away from “real” Americans, hence the claimed enjoyment (during this period of limited backlash) of liberal anger, liberal tears, etc. It’s not about restoring America (whatever that might entail) but reveling in the suffering of the people who supposedly took it. In Bricker’s particular case, I suggest a steady low-level resentment dating back to the Bork nomination, hence he is happy to get “payback” in the form of the Garland pseudo-rejection. A cruder version of this is routinely expressed by the less intelligent board conservatives of this board, who claim to enjoy what they perceive as liberal distress, entirely for its own sake.
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### Author:  [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/210 "2018-08-31T20:57:01Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> If I may speculate on Bricker’s motivation (and that of others who share some of his views), it occurs to me that revenge may be involved. For several decades, there’s been a pervasive myth that a systematic effort is underway to take America away from “real” Americans, hence the claimed enjoyment (during this period of limited backlash) of liberal anger, liberal tears, etc. It’s not about restoring America (whatever that might entail) but reveling in the suffering of the people who supposedly took it. In Bricker’s particular case, I suggest a steady low-level resentment dating back to the Bork nomination, hence he is happy to get “payback” in the form of the Garland pseudo-rejection. A cruder version of this is routinely expressed by the less intelligent board conservatives of this board, who claim to enjoy what they perceive as liberal distress, entirely for its own sake.
Bork is too recent, I’m thinking that the resentment stems from earlier, much earlier.
> [@Conan](#):
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> Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/211 "2018-08-31T20:58:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Does it involve holding hands and singing Kumbaya?
If you want. In my experience, it more often involves shouting at each other.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/212 "2018-08-31T21:08:15Z")
Its tougher for you guys, because Jews hate to argue.
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### Author:  [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/213 "2018-08-31T21:47:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I’m starting to suspect that **Huey Freeman** is actually a white Freeper-type troll.
I’m going to go against the bandwagon jumpers and fair weather liberal friends to say that I agree with about 95% of what **Huey Freeman** says and how he says it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. These constant refrains of how he’s a troll or a secret conservative or whatever the fuck nonsense keeps getting passed around only highlights the “polite” racism of this place that is often ignored. Sure, the open stuff is easy to point out, but goddamn if the sanctimonious and self-righteous set doesn’t ping me as the exact same ones who “don’t see color”.
His anger is absolutely understandable and the same women who harped on the sexism should maybe take a step back and examine their own damn selves when it comes to racism. That “I got my changes but you’re issues make me uncomfortable to face” brand of feminism is gross and hypocritcal. Don’t be gross.
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### Author:  [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/214 "2018-08-31T21:50:30Z")
Probably should’ve placed that elsewhere but some of y’all “liberals” are like Pavlov’s dog every time he posts.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/215 "2018-08-31T22:48:53Z")
> [@HelenTroy](#):
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> I’m going to go against the bandwagon jumpers and fair weather liberal friends to say that I agree with about 95% of what **Huey Freeman** says and how he says it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. These constant refrains of how he’s a troll or a secret conservative or whatever the fuck nonsense keeps getting passed around only highlights the “polite” racism of this place that is often ignored. Sure, the open stuff is easy to point out, but goddamn if the sanctimonious and self-righteous set doesn’t ping me as the exact same ones who “don’t see color”.
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> His anger is absolutely understandable and the same women who harped on the sexism should maybe take a step back and examine their own damn selves when it comes to racism. That “I got my changes but you’re issues make me uncomfortable to face” brand of feminism is gross and hypocritcal. Don’t be gross.
Seconded. My criticism of him here doesn’t mean I think he’s mostly wrong, just that he’s sometimes wrong, like when he excuses Bricker’s behavior for bullshit reasons.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/216 "2018-08-31T23:34:16Z")
Its true he has worthy points to make, but I cannot help but notice he has nothing to say about the threat of Cognitive Dissonance, much less any acknowledgement of CD as the most crucial issue we face!
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### Author:  [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/217 "2018-09-01T01:09:37Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#):
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> [Dumbass](https://imgur.com/a/S4LgVrn)
Wow, you really told me, didn’t you? :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/218 "2018-09-01T01:52:14Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Wow, you really told me, didn’t you? :rolleyes:
Well, you got me to click on the picture, Guin, so there’s that. And of the things Huey’s right about, he’s right about that.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/219 "2018-09-01T02:03:26Z")
> [@Bricker](#):
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> Does it involve holding hands and singing Kumbaya?..
Most of us lefties can handle folk songs in the People’s Key of C. \*Ride of the Valkyrie \*is out of our range.
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### Author:  [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/220 "2018-09-01T05:06:31Z")
It is not one person opinion that worries me, it is the surge of anti-white-liberal sentiment shortly before an election. The United States is tearing itself apart.
I know that sounds like “Now is not the time”, but no, what I mean is I wonder why this anger is being stoked _now_.
Tell me, Huey, do you ever find yourself looking at _ **another** _ white male candidate and think it hardly worth the effort to vote? Assuming, that is, that you haven’t been mysteriously removed from the rolls, or had your polling place closed, or even been found guilty of a felony for something that might have earned someone else a plea bargained misdemeanor? And are lots of videos and articles about racist white women rants popping up in your feeds more often these days, or is that type of divisiveness peaked?
I’m not saying you are wrong, I am just asking if your anger is being directed, and to whose benefit.
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