# What happened to Bricker?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 25, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249 "2018-08-25T09:51:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/261 "2018-09-04T13:58:13Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Interesting.
> 
> If pointing out _White_ fragility is “race baiting”, what would saying _Black_ people are genetically inclined to low IQs be? Just Asking…

Did someone do that without getting jumped all over here?

(You didn’t ask me, but I would say full-on racism.)

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### Author: ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/262 "2018-09-04T14:32:53Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Interesting.
> 
> If pointing out _White_ fragility is “race baiting”, what would saying _Black_ people are genetically inclined to low IQs be? Just Asking…

It would be yet another opportunity for you to blow a gasket screaming ‘fuck you’.

Regards,  
Shodan

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/263 "2018-09-04T14:54:29Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> It would be yet another opportunity for you to blow a gasket screaming ‘fuck you’.

Naah, that was me falling for _your_ (in hindsight, obvious) race baiting re: how wonderful it would be if Apartheid lasted 10 more years. Not a mistake I’d let a cunt like you trick me into twice.

I see you’re still proud of it, though. It’s good to have hobbies. Yours seems to be being racist and proud of it.

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### Author: ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/264 "2018-09-04T17:14:34Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> It would be yet another opportunity for you to blow a gasket screaming ‘fuck you’.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Do you mean to imply such a statement should be addressed with quiet reason and logic?

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### Author: ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/265 "2018-09-04T17:28:29Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> It would be yet another opportunity for you to blow a gasket screaming ‘fuck you’.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Does he fit the description that [you believe](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20337966&postcount=58) qualifies him as an n-word?

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### Author: ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/266 "2018-09-04T18:00:15Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Interesting.
> 
> If pointing out _White_ fragility is “race baiting”, what would saying _Black_ people are genetically inclined to low IQs be? Just Asking…

You realize it’s labeled as race baiting because those who actually use that term are the ones to see racism literally everywhere with the exception of their own bigoted posts? So, is “white fragility” a function of genes or a function of white culture?

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/267 "2018-09-04T18:23:06Z")

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For the record, I did NOT say I believe that **Huey** is a troll because of “race-baiting”.

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### Author: ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/268 "2018-09-04T18:24:06Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> So, is “white fragility” a function of genes or a function of white culture?

Culture. Specifically, the fact that white people never actually have to deal with not being the utterly dominant homogeneous majority, and are as a result utterly unprepared for even the slightest change in that paradigm.

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### Author: ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/269 "2018-09-04T18:27:36Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You realize it’s labeled as race baiting because those who actually use that term are the ones to see racism literally everywhere with the exception of their own bigoted posts? So, is “white fragility” a function of genes or a function of white culture?

Son, do you even smell the shit you’re shoveling? You know as well as the rest of us that the only people who use the term “race-baiting” are on the right.

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### Author: ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/270 "2018-09-04T18:33:29Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Son, do you even smell the shit you’re shoveling? You know as well as the rest of us that the only people who use the term “race-baiting” are on the right.

If you had a Foghorn Leghorn avatar for that post it would’ve been perfect.

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### Author: ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/271 "2018-09-04T19:07:25Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Culture. Specifically, the fact that white people never actually have to deal with not being the utterly dominant homogeneous majority, and are as a result utterly unprepared for even the slightest change in that paradigm.

But it’s not homogeneous, not at all. That’s just bizarre.

Utterly dominant, yes, and it is nice (especially for men), nice enough that I would much rather every one shared my benefits than that I lost any.

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### Author: ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/272 "2018-09-04T19:13:52Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Do you mean to imply such a statement should be addressed with quiet reason and logic?

In the Pit? What fun would that be?

Of course, if you wanted to convince anyone that it wasn’t a question of fragility, perhaps yelling 'fuck you" (or “cunt”) might not be the best way to go about it.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Does he fit the description that [you believe](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20337966&postcount=58) qualifies him as an n-word?

Ask Chris Rock.

Regards,  
Shodan

PS - fuck.

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### Author: ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/273 "2018-09-04T19:19:57Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Ask Chris Rock.

Why would I ask him? He did a comedy bit. You made a non-comedic statement about how to characterize black people. Unless you were just joking – if so, let me know, and I’ll withdraw the question, which remains: in your opinion, does **MrDibble** qualify as an n-word? Seems like a simple question to me.

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/274 "2018-09-04T19:36:18Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Why would I ask him? He did a comedy bit. You made a non-comedic statement about how to characterize black people. Unless you were just joking – if so, let me know, and I’ll withdraw the question, which remains: in your opinion, does **MrDibble** qualify as an n-word? Seems like a simple question to me.

Also, Chris Rock has repudiated that bit. He regrets it, mostly for the ammo it gives to racists. You know, the whole “But Chris Rock said it! Why are you getting upset when I say that some black people are n\*\*\*ers?”

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### Author: ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/275 "2018-09-04T19:43:24Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Utterly dominant, yes, and it is nice (especially for men), nice enough that I would much rather every one shared my benefits than that I lost any.

For me, this is what makes the situation in _most_ but not all instances not a “privilege” if it’s no skin off my back _or even a benefit to me_ if everyone else is treated the same way. It isn’t a benefit to me to have to pay the extra costs and untapped resources caused by an unequal justice system. If everyone were equal and someone came up to me with a cunning plan to introduce the current situation _with regards to the justice system only_, and I were immensely greedy, I’d still go with the equal status quo because it would cost me money. (Education and employment might be another story, however.)

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### Author: ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/276 "2018-09-05T00:51:20Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> … If I post “I’m Maori” and someone posts in response “I don’t believe you’re Maori,” and I reply “then you are an anti-Maori bigot,” … well, that is a fail for me. Skepticism about a status claimed on the Internet is not the same thing as bigotry against people who have that status.

> [@Huey\_Freeman](#):
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> Curious.  
> Do you think your example is representative of what was said? As in, the response chain was:
> 
> Huey: I’m a person of color  
> Guin: I don’t believe you’re a person of color  
> Huey: Then you are bigot against people of color
> 
> No explanation is needed, wanted, or desired; a simple yes or no will suffice.  
> Thank you.

Your “no explanation is needed, wanted or desired” violates not only the spirit of this website but, I believe, its rules as well. However, I won’t report your post, but will instead point out that the answer to your question is contained in your own post (#229), which is quoted below.

> [@Huey\_Freeman](#):
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> I just found it funny.
> 
> 1. You happily participated in the “Is OJ guilty” thread in the Great Debates folder.
> 2. I write a post decrying that thread (and other threads) as potentially offensive to people of color.
> 3. You reply to the post - skipping over the substance of the post - and accuse me of being a white conservative.
> 
> First, this speaks to the cultish behavior that many of you have here. If someone is new and posts something you don’t like, the new poster is accused of being a sock (yes, this was said), a paid Russian troll (yes, this was said), or a paid troll to foment racial division (yes, this was said). If someone is new and claims to be a person of color, you conspiratorially assume the opposite and label them a white conservative (yes, this was said by _you_ and others) or claim that the person of color lacks intelligence (yes, this was dog whistled). You (and others) do this to delegitimize the experience of people of color by implying my viewpoint does not matter because I’m ostensibly a white conservative troll muddying the waters. It’s bizzaro land, where up is down and down is up. When Grand Dragon Shodan claimed his username was a male, I ceased misgendering him as a female. I took Grand Dragon Shodan at his word that he identifies as male. No questions were asked. In contrast, I had to take a fucking webcam picture to be taken at my word that I’m a person of color. In case you were wondering, that’s the textbook definition of white privilege. Second, it highlights that your frame of reference is white. You cannot countenance that a person of color could write or express these positions, therefore you assume I’m a white conservative pulling some joke on you. This is in itself white supremacy. It drives home why this place is like a family reunion for college-educated white supremacists and latte-sipping white liberals. You’re made for each other and don’t even know it. Lastly, you and others foster an environment that drips with anti-black sentiment that is exclusionary yet have the nerve to act self-righteous when this is brought up; Don’t believe me? Go on Google and type in “SDMB IQ Blacks straightdope” and you’ll get this [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18227361), and this [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653191), and this[thread,](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=657074) and there’s even more like this [one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=814117) and this [one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=622273) on the next page. It literally goes [on](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=73536) and[on](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=824576)and [on](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315577)and [on](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=705779). Even now, you are blinded by your own whiteness to see any of it. It’s much easier to delegitimize my position by painting me as a white conservative. But I know the drill by now: you will equivocate. You will make excuses. You will emphasize intention over impact. You will shift the discussion. You will walk away and the racism that permeates this place will go unabated.

If you need me to explain where in your post the answer to your question may be found, I will be happy to do so.

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### Author: ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/277 "2018-09-05T02:22:03Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> For me, this is what makes the situation in _most_ but not all instances not a “privilege” if it’s no skin off my back _or even a benefit to me_ if everyone else is treated the same way. It isn’t a benefit to me to have to pay the extra costs and untapped resources caused by an unequal justice system. If everyone were equal and someone came up to me with a cunning plan to introduce the current situation _with regards to the justice system only_, and I were immensely greedy, I’d still go with the equal status quo because it would cost me money. (Education and employment might be another story, however.)

If we are not going to warehouse black men in prisons, we have to do _something_ with them, and that means jobs, and that means education.

I can do enlighten self interest, too.

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/278 "2018-09-05T07:28:08Z")

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Dear Diary - TIL that saying a bad word because some racist thinks 10 more years of racist oppression would have been _just peachy_ for my entire country is apparently the same kind of fragility a racist feels when told he should no longer be _quite_ so openly racist…

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/279 "2018-09-05T10:50:39Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Your “no explanation is needed, wanted or desired” violates not only the spirit of this website but, I believe, its rules as well.

What the hell are you talking about?

> [@](#):
>
> If you need me to explain where in your post the answer to your question may be found, I will be happy to do so.

I’m torn between “needing” you to do so, and predicting your explanation is going to be absurd. So, y’know, all ears.

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### Author: ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-to-bricker/820249/280 "2018-09-05T10:57:42Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> In the Pit? What fun would that be?
> 
> Of course, if you wanted to convince anyone that it wasn’t a question of fragility, perhaps yelling 'fuck you" (or “cunt”) might not be the best way to go about it.  
> Ask Chris Rock.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan
> 
> PS - fuck.

No, I disagree. Cursing is a fine way to express anger.

There is a time for reasoned discussion, but some statements should not be granted the (implied) credence of a reasoned response. “Fuck you” is an appropriate response to such statements, though I prefer “You’re an idiot.”

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