What happened to NYC's homeless population?

[QUOTE=gigi]
I was going to respond with some flip answer about the potential but not proven mole people, and then I stumbled over this picture of the kind of atrocity I was shocked to see with my own eyes the other week, and I couldn’t go on. Weep with me over Our Fair City and what it has come to.
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WTF are we supposed to be looking at? I see a subway sign, people walking, etc. Normal day in just about any city in North America.

[QUOTE=BMalion]
Don’t they all live underground in old Subway tunnells with a vast complex secret society? And don’t they hold elaborate rituals and have a very complicated caste system with kings and armies and priests? and trained alligators?
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No, you’re confusing the homeless with SDMB moderators.

[QUOTE=ExTank]
WTF are we supposed to be looking at? I see a subway sign, people walking, etc. Normal day in just about any city in North America.
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OK, so it’s not just me…

[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady]
Honolulu did exactly that while I lived there. If you were homeless in Honolulu and had a place to go on the mainland, the state would buy you a one-way ticket there. There were a LOT of homeless people in Honolulu - there was actually a “tent city” in one of the parks. I don’t know how many took them up on the ticket offer.
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Utah County (home of Provo, etc.) had a policy similar to this. The police would pick up a homeless person and…simply drop them off at the county line. Helps keep the vagrancy stats down.

[QUOTE=ExTank]
WTF are we supposed to be looking at? I see a subway sign, people walking, etc. Normal day in just about any city in North America.
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I’m not sure, but I think that’s a Subway restaurant. Atrocity indeed – I want that funky wedge-cut sandwich bread back, dammit!

I haven’t noticed a reduction of homeless people in NY in the last decade. The one improvement is that the squeegee guys are gone.

[QUOTE=LouisB]
Are you a native Texan?
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Yeah, why?

[QUOTE=gigi]
I was going to respond with some flip answer about the potential but not proven mole people, and then I stumbled over this picture of the kind of atrocity I was shocked to see with my own eyes the other week, and I couldn’t go on. Weep with me over Our Fair City and what it has come to.
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Let me guess, someone asked you if liked comedy (my usual response: “this IS comedy”), or whether you’d like to purchase a book on 1,001 sex positions (“I thought there were only 2”), or whether you’ve found Jesus (“It’s pronounced Hay-SOOS, and he’s not interested!”).

[QUOTE=spingears]
This may be a “radical” solution.
Set them to work doing jobs other refuse.
Keeping the city clean.
Tending plants in parks and park ways.
Doing the jobs that others refuse to do because of being on the dole.
In other words: No tickee, no washee!
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What a great idea!! But wait, what about the fact that homelessness is not just about unemployment? Dammit, there’s that pesky issue of so many of the homeless being diagnosed with a mental illness, with dual diagnoses and a drug/alcohol addiction to top it off. So now I guess we need to implement social programs that try to treat these issues in addition to finding housing and jobs.

Oh wait, we’ve been unsuccessfully trying that for decades.

Ok, next idea?

The number of homeless in any particular area is a function of supply and demand. Demand = the number of homeless. Supply = the value and availability of social services. Supply is a function of how accommodating a city is to homeless people; the more accommodating the city is, the higher the supply (by definition), and thus the easier it is to get service.

A city that generously accommodates/caters to homeless people (high supply) creates a high demand for homelessness. If supply is decreased, demand (the number of homeless) will decrease in step. Where do they go? Two places:

  1. Work. Supply will decrease to the point that work becomes more enticing to many homeless people.

  2. Move. Many homeless will move to a city with higher supply.

[QUOTE=ExTank]
WTF are we supposed to be looking at? I see a subway sign, people walking, etc. Normal day in just about any city in North America.
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It’s from the new and “improved” Times Square. It just doesn’t look the way a subway station should.

Or it’s just me.

[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut]
1,001 sex positions (“I thought there were only 2”)
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2 ??

[QUOTE=gigi]
2 ??
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OK 3. The other ones are just variations on the 3 themes.

Beyond the overly cutesy spelling of “Skechers” and an eyebleeding amount of neon, I don’t see anything wrong. Some of Montreal’s subway stations are artsy, too.

[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut]
“I thought there were only 2”)
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Oh, ye of little or no imagination.

Cagey Drifter. First, let me apologize to you for having to move your thread. You correctly started it out in General Questions.

Unfortunately, too many of our members think that questions posted there are fair game for immediate humor, poliltical comments, opinions, general chit-chat, and mind-numbing stupidity. Since I had to work all day, I couldn’t, in a timely manner, warn any of them about the separation of fora on this board.

This one is going to IMHO. You can still get factual answers there, and the offenderati can continue to post drivel.

samclem GQ moderator

[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut]
I haven’t noticed a reduction of homeless people in NY in the last decade. The one improvement is that the squeegee guys are gone.
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Much like Eve’s homeless - they’re still here too. Especially in the High Bridge & more southern sections of the Bronx.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
Beyond the overly cutesy spelling of “Skechers” and an eyebleeding amount of neon, I don’t see anything wrong. Some of Montreal’s subway stations are artsy, too.
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The deal is that NY’s underground stations almost all have entrances that look like this. The aboveground stations look like this. Functional, urban, and not at all neon.

In fact, that one set of entrances in Times Square is utterly unlike any of the others, but it does fit in with the neighborhood. I’m assuming that gigi liked the old Times Square, which didn’t look quite like that.

[QUOTE=bump]
Yeah, why?
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Idle curiosity, mostly. I’ve noticed that ideas and attitudes similar to the one you aired earlier in this thread are relatively common among native Texans, although not universally to be sure. I believe it must be something in the water that causes such attitudes.

[QUOTE=Jackknifed Juggernaut]
OK 3. The other ones are just variations on the 3 themes.
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I meant I can only think of one.
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