# What happened with the Hillary email scandal?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 29, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574 "2016-01-29T14:58:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/41 "2016-01-29T23:15:13Z")

</div>

> [@Xema](#):
>
> So it’s pretty obviously almost forgotten, except by a few Repubs out on the lunatic fringe.

Well, British ones, anyway.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/42 "2016-01-29T23:16:53Z")

</div>

This could become as significant a scandal as Benghazi.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/43 "2016-01-29T23:52:30Z")

</div>

Judging by recent news on this subject it seems the FBI and the White House have joined the vast right wing conspiracy.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/44 "2016-01-29T23:55:05Z")

</div>

> [@Randolph](#):
>
> This could become as significant a scandal as Benghazi.

Are you kidding? This could be twice as significant! I can’t wait for 22 hours of asshats grilling her trying to squeeze out one bit of campaignable material.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/45 "2016-01-30T00:35:07Z")

</div>

I find it hard to believe that the OP can be serious given that the email thing is still on the front page of CNN more days than not. As of right now, we don’t know how this will all shake out, but we do know that the people investigating it are non-partisan and have integrity, so we can trust the end result.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/46 "2016-01-30T00:45:00Z")

</div>

> [@DigitalC](#):
>
> People don’t actually go to jail for media created scandals.

What if the media created a jail to put those people in? Yeah, that’s the ticket!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/47 "2016-01-30T01:19:21Z")

</div>

> [@adaher](#):
>
> I find it hard to believe that the OP can be serious given that the email thing is still on the front page of CNN more days than not. As of right now, we don’t know how this will all shake out, but we do know that the people investigating it are non-partisan and have integrity, so we can trust the end result.

Ha, ha, ha!. Oh yeah I needed that laugh… The Republicans will not accept the likely end result, you can be sure of that.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/48 "2016-01-30T03:12:21Z")

</div>

I will. I hope you will as well.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/49 "2016-01-30T06:33:10Z")

</div>

> [@GIGObuster](#):
>
> Ha, ha, ha!. Oh yeah I needed that laugh… The Republicans will not accept the likely end result, you can be sure of that.

So the F.B.I. is purely partisan now?

It is being reported that Clinton, or her aides, jumped the air gap from SIPRNet and JWICS. If that is true it is likely someone will end up in jail. It has also been reported that Clinton never had her SIPRNet or JWICS accounts setup. If the second piece is true then almost certainly the first piece is true, otherwise Clinton would have no way of accessing the information.

Of course, until the F.B.I releases their report, we won’t have anything other than leaks which may be false.

However the absolute stupidity Clinton displayed in setting up her own email server is stunning. I would be amazed if her email was not read by other nations.

Slee

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/50 "2016-01-30T07:07:59Z")

</div>

> [@sleestak](#):
>
> So the F.B.I. is purely partisan now?

The FBI told us that “Clinton is not the target of the investigation”, so no, I think it is partisan, but the bulk of the speculations are coming from the partizan’s of the right, because of the quantity and hearsay galore it is not hard to deduce that it is those speculations the ones that are more likely to be wrong.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/51 "2016-01-30T07:21:07Z")

</div>

> [@Morgenstern](#):
>
> Yep, the republicans made Hillary look like the sane one in the room.

“look like”?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/52 "2016-01-30T13:00:26Z")

</div>

[The BBC is reporting](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35446455) that 22 emails were Top Secret.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/53 "2016-01-30T13:14:35Z")

</div>

Tom Delay and Darrell Issa say people they know in the FBI have tipped them off that an indictment is coming. Not the most reliable sources, of course.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/54 "2016-01-30T13:30:22Z")

</div>

> [@sleestak](#):
>
> So the F.B.I. is purely partisan now?
> 
> It is being reported that Clinton, or her aides, jumped the air gap from SIPRNet and JWICS. If that is true it is likely someone will end up in jail. It has also been reported that Clinton never had her SIPRNet or JWICS accounts setup. If the second piece is true then almost certainly the first piece is true, otherwise Clinton would have no way of accessing the information.

But what info “jumped the gap”? I have a SIPRNet account and access it weekly. There is plenty of data on the network that is not classified in any way. Unclassified data from a classified network is still unclassified. Hell, it’s not uncommon to see unclassified data that is marked classified, because someone was being extra careful and didn’t know the difference.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/55 "2016-01-30T13:41:00Z")

</div>

I’ve worked in classified offices and environments for almost 15 years. I’ve known people who have put actual classified information on unclassified networks, usually by mistake or due to laziness. That’s called a “spill”. You know what happens to the guys I know who did this? They were disciplined, and suspended from accessing classified info. And they had to face retraining in order to regain access. None of them were fired, though I’ve heard of folks being fired for making this mistake one too many times. Absolutely none of them faced criminal charges.

It was a big deal – any time it happened, the boss called a meeting, explained what happened, and reiterated that this needed to be avoided. But it never was such a big deal that it demanded law enforcement involvement.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/56 "2016-01-30T13:48:04Z")

</div>

If the management wasn’t doing anything about it, that would involve law enforcement though.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/57 "2016-01-30T13:48:53Z")

</div>

> [@adaher](#):
>
> If the management wasn’t doing anything about it, that would involve law enforcement though.

Possibly (though it hasn’t been established that there was anything wrong going on).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/58 "2016-01-30T13:57:36Z")

</div>

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
>
> … it hasn’t been established that there was anything wrong going on

Wouldn’t top-secret info on an unsecured private server qualify as ‘something wrong’?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/59 "2016-01-30T14:02:01Z")

</div>

> [@Xema](#):
>
> Wouldn’t top-secret info on an unsecured private server qualify as ‘something wrong’?

Was it classified at the time?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574/60 "2016-01-30T14:05:29Z")

</div>

> [@Quartz](#):
>
> [The BBC is reporting](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35446455) that 22 emails were Top Secret.

ARE NOW top secret. They were not classified so when they were sent from her server. That is a crucial detail that the GOP would like people to overlook.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574.md?page=2)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happened-with-the-hillary-email-scandal/744574.md?page=4)
