# What happens if Donald Trump actually wins the 2024 Republican nomination under indictment? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 5, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063 "2023-06-05T22:32:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/101 "2023-06-13T16:22:02Z")
At least the prosecutors on Agnew’s case gave him an opportunity to resign in order to avoid charges. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/102 "2023-06-13T16:24:04Z")
Exactly!!! You are makeing my point for me! Any prosecution of Hillary would have been politically motivated! The same thing is going on now with Donald Trump! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/103 "2023-06-13T16:24:30Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > At least the prosecutors on Agnew’s case gave him an opportunity to resign in order to avoid charges Yes, they did. And those same people think it would be wrong to offer Trump such a deal. The situation is similar, but not identical. ETA: And Agnew did have to plead guilty to one charge, so it’s more accurate to say he was allowed to resign in order to avoid jail time. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/104 "2023-06-13T16:26:04Z")
What? Trump had plenty of opportunities to resign while in office, and now that he is out of office he is running (partially?) again because he thinks it will stymie prosecution. What would Trump have to do and/or say for you not to support him? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/105 "2023-06-13T16:26:14Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > The same thing is going on now with Donald Trump! You can repeat it as much as you want, it doesn’t make it true, despite what Fox News et al. want you to believe. If you can’t see the difference, it’s because you don’t **want** to see the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/106 "2023-06-13T16:27:37Z")
Well, if you watch Rachel Maddow’s show on MSNBC on a regular basis, you probably agree with most of her political views. By the the way, she now has the highest rated show on cable news since Tucker Carlson left FOX. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/107 "2023-06-13T16:28:35Z")
Tucker Carlson was fired from FOX. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/108 "2023-06-13T16:29:20Z")
I have already admitted earlier that Trump dropping out of the Race is a viable option that I would accept. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/109 "2023-06-13T16:30:21Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > Well, if you watch Rachel Maddow’s show on MSNBC on a regular basis, you probably agree with most of her political views. I’m not sure what her political views are, but I do like her show. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/110 "2023-06-13T16:31:24Z")
Which just shows that you still support him and want him to get away with his felonies and possible espionage. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/111 "2023-06-13T16:32:23Z")
I am not trying to be condescending, but if you don’t care about politics, why do you watch her show? That is all she talks about. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/112 "2023-06-13T16:33:03Z")
So you _do_ watch her show on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/113 "2023-06-13T16:34:02Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > Now why would he do that? > > I don’t want to get into a debate about wether Hillary was guilty or innocent Whether someone committed a crime is actually a very good thing to know if you’re wondering why the government didn’t pursue criminal charges. This is because, if the person didn’t commit a crime, the government won’t have evidence to bring to trial. Not having evidence and facts to support your claim is how you lose 60+ election lawsuits in a row. Interestingly enough, trial judges, even Republican ones, require the prosecution to present something. Twitter doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/114 "2023-06-13T16:41:40Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > And Agnew did have to plead guilty to one charge, so it’s more accurate to say he was allowed to resign in order to avoid jail time. Repeated for emphasis. If Trump pleads guilty to one count of obstruction of Justice, and doesn’t pursue any future federal office, I’m fine with him avoiding prison in this current federal case. I think it would be a reasonable plea bargain. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/115 "2023-06-13T16:41:47Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > Are there any conservative republicans on these message boards? I frequently vote for Republicans — and, on various issues, I’m to the _right_ of them, which hasn’t stopped me from knocking on doors for Republicans, and volunteering at polling places for Republicans, and so on, and so on. But I’m afraid my position on lawbreakers doesn’t look like it’d help your argument. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/116 "2023-06-13T16:43:46Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > I am not trying to be condescending, but if you don’t care about politics, why do you watch her show? > > That is all she talks about. I didn’t say I don’t care about politics. I care quite a bit. I said I didn’t know Maddow’s political views. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/117 "2023-06-13T16:46:28Z")
Do you consider yourself to be a conservative republican? There is a difference. In other words, was Ronald Reagan one of the first politicians in your life that formed your republican political views originally. Or if you were to young to be alive during the Reagan social and economic revolution, could this person have been let’s say Rush Limbaugh? People who identify themselves as conservative republicans are not in some kind of cult that democrats want people to believe. According to the 2020 election results, there are approximately 74 million of us, those who voted for Donald Trump. And I consider that to be a conservative estimate. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/118 "2023-06-13T16:49:38Z")
Are you misspelling “democrats” on purpose, or have you just overlooked the corrections made in this thread, let alone the thousands of times you have seen it elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/119 "2023-06-13T16:49:50Z")
And while we’re talking about “courtesy” and “decorum”, let’s not forget this point I made earlier: > [@Horatius](#): > > Note, they also used the same discretion not to charge him for all the other documents he did have, which he only turned over reluctantly after being asked, and then ordered, to turn them over. So, yes, Trump has already benefited greatly from judicial application of prosecutorial discretion. You’re whining about 37 counts in the indictment? Legally, they could have had hundreds of counts, one for each document, at a minimum. > > They bent over backwards to accommodate Trump, and you’re still whining. You want us to show “courtesy” to Trump? _We already did_. He was politely asked to give back these documents, and given **months** in which to respond to that request. Compare that to the idiot who posted a bunch of stuff on Discord. As soon as they knew who he was, and where he was, he was apprehended at gunpoint, and immediately bundled off to jail. Trump had months of lounging around in his luxury golf club house, while he considered what to do. He decided to use that time to lie, conspire with other liars, suborn perjury, and produce knowingly false documents asserting that he had no such documents. We **were** courteous _beyond measure_ with this asshole, and he used that courtesy to shit on the law and the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063/120 "2023-06-13T16:52:09Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > According to the 2020 election results, there are approximately 74 million of us, those who voted for Donald Trump. Not enough to win the election, it seems. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-donald-trump-actually-wins-the-2024-republican-nomination-under-indictment/985063.md?page=7)