This is probably as good a place as any to post a link to my pictures of the Peace Arch Park on the US-Canadian border. While in the park, one can simply cross the border without having to go through border control.
I’d bet that they replated it with an invisible common wall. And have divided taxes up from the businesses that way. Shared parking lots and interior spaces are probably some sort of GCE (general common element, probably spit 50/50) makes for an interesting problem for both spatial and tabular database design for collecting taxes.
That’s to bad. But make sure you have them check with the assessors office to see what school district they are being taxed for. (the legal council should have already done this, but you never know). They may still be being taxed for the physical address of the mailbox. It happens. They may still be in the wrong taxing district and being charged for the other district.
Talk to the assessors office. (my Wife works for the assessor, I make the maps and assign addresses).
In the case you stated there might be two addresses for the house. A physical and a mailing. If your county has a GIS system, look at it and see how the town boundaries lay.
Some years ago here in St. Louis, a suburban department store expanded so that its lower level actually stretched into another suburb. It was decided that the towns would collect taxes based on which cash register the sale was rung on.
That worked okay until town A decided to enact a municipal sales tax while town B didn’t. Before everyone started dragging their purchases across the store to save 1/2%, it was decided that some departments would pay the local slaes tax, and other departments wouldn’t.
Hmmm. According to my Thomas guide, The actual Valley Fair Mall is in San Jose. It shows Santa Clara bounded by Stevens Creek Boulevard to the south and Winchester Blvd to the east, up to Newhall. That gives the covered mall building and adjoining parking lots to San Jose, as well as Santana Row on the south side of Stevens Creek. Santa Clara’s “share” would be that big strip mall on the other side of Winchester. I don’t really think of that as “Valley Fair”, even if it’s part of the same development.
Not an UL. Those Baarle houses straddling the border usually have two front doors: one in current use and one boarded up but ready to be put back in use at the drop, or rather, rise of a tax assessment. Ditto for shops. As the first link given by Terminus Est says
On the other hand, a building that was there before the tax boundaries were established might present a problem.
Would I really need government permission to build a hous out in the sticks? I’m thinking, say, a house in both northern Montana and southern Alberta, assuming I own the land on both sides.
The company for which I currently work has a factory in Switzerland and one in France which are separated by a Customs Post. If you don’t know better, you wonder why the heck is there a wall through the middle of the factory, with a red-and-white bar and some sort of cops in two different uniforms at the gate.
They are, legally, two separate locations.
From the Mall’s website:
*2855 Stevens Creek Blvd., Suite 2178
Santa Clara CA 95050-6709
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From wiki:Westfield Valley Fair - Wikipedia
Valley Fair and Westfield Shoppingtown Valley Fair is an upscale shopping mall owned by The Westfield Group, located at the corner of Winchester and Stevens Creek Boulevards, straddling the border of Santa Clara and San Jose, California, United States…Valley Fair Mall is unique in that it replaced two separate 1950s era shopping centers. The original Valley Fair Shopping Center, opened in 1956, was confined to the eastern side of the property in San Jose. It was developed and anchored by Macy’s and included roughly 40 other stores in an outdoor plaza. At the western side was another outdoor shopping center, Stevens Creek Plaza in Santa Clara. It was anchored by The Emporium and I. Magnin. For that reason, the current mall contributes sales tax revenues to both the cities of San Jose and Santa Clara.
http://www.svcn.com/archives/almadenresident/20070831/news3.shtml
At Valley Fair, sales taxes are divided between San Jose and Santa Clara.
There’s the Stateline Casino on the Nevada/Utah border that slightly overhangs onto the Utah side.
I looks like for those counties that don’t have a building department, the state steps in.
I assume this would require permits and inspections. For sure it looks like an electrical permit is required.
A grocery store here in Richmond straddles the boundary between the City of Richmond and Henrico County. The City only collectes real estate taxes (not sales taxes) because the cash registers are physically located at the other end of the building in the County.
The lodge/casino people are speaking of is the CalNeva Lodge, IIRC.
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This isn’t always the case. I have a mailing address for one city in one county, but my house is actually physically located in another city/another county. (The larger urban area straddles the city/county line.) I pay taxes to the city/county where the property sits and I get services from them as well, except for fire protection and mail.
How beautiful! This is definitely on my list of places to visit.
I can’t say for Alberta, but I just called the Lincoln, Montana, planning office (why not?) and they said for unincorporated (not in a town) unsubdivided Lincoln County, you do not need a building permit for a personal residence, though you will need a septic permit and an electric permit if you want septic and electricity. And Mary Lou says “hi.”
There was a situation here in Utah within the last year or so, where a developer built a subdivision straddling the line between two counties. The streets and property lines were laid out with no regard to the boundary, with the result that many homeowners (unknowingly) bought property that was partly in one county and partly in the other.
Who was asleep at the approval office, I don’t know, but there were lots of meetings and lawsuits to try to resolve the issues of who paid property taxes to which county, and what schools kids would attend, etc.
Will those guys be out of a job when Switzerland gets around to implementing the Schengen Agreement?
Basle airport has a similar setup in the departure lounge. Although entirely within France, there’s an agreement that part of it is accessed from Switzerland without customs restrictions. It also has multiple airport codes, with miraculous invisible connections between the two. Searching Expedia for routes to BSL turns up this:
MLH is the code for the French part of the airport, so this is treated as an internal French flight.
Here’s a Google Map of an interesting area on the DE/PA state line. I don’t know how accurate Google’s border depiction is, but it certainly looks like some of these houses are divided by the state line. It looks like the line goes right through the middle of one of the houses on Okie Drive, and a but further NE there’s a house on Delpa Drive with a big swimming pool in Delaware, while the house itself seems to have been built in a weird shape to stay in Pennsylvania!
The topo map is a bit out of date but seems to agree on the state line location.
Scroll up and right a bit on the Google Map until you can see Radburn Lane - it’s a tiny dead-end street but seems to be half-and-half in two states.
Also, I remember reading about the Pheasant Lane Mall in Nashua NH, hard against the MA state line. On Google Maps you can see the JC Penney store (with the grey roof) is missing it’s southernmost corner, in order to keep it inside New Hampshire! (You can see that Google’s state line disagrees though.)
On a smaller level, I live very close to the junction of three counties, Hampshire, Berkshire and Surrey. (They join at a big road junction a couple of miles from my house.) Until quite recently, the postal address for my whole town was in Surrey, because the nearest “post town” is in Surrey, so the address was My Town, Post Town, Surrey. A few years ago, my town was upgraded to a post town, so it is now just My Town, Hampshire. But that had no bearing on which county we pay taxes to, which has always been Hampshire.
To late to edit:
Incidentally, my local DIY store is, according to large-scale maps, right on the county boundary, about 2/3 in Surrey and 1/3 in Berkshire (the boundary used to follow a stream, which is now piped under the car park). I don’t know who they pay their taxes etc to.
Sorta hijack about property borders in uncomfortable places …
When we were living in Las Vegas back in the 80s my wife’s law firm took an interesting case. The city was growing rapidly and two different housing developers simultaneously bought adjacent large tracts (~15 square miles each) well out in the desert beyond the edge of town. The area surveys dated from the late 1800s and the two tracts had been surveyed about 20 years apart.
Once they got title & permits they went out to survey with modern tools to begin grading for construction.
That’s when they discovered their parcels which looked adjacent on the plat maps actually overlapped along their 3 mile common border. The overlap was about 10 feet at one end of the border and about 150 yards at the other.
These guys could have split the difference or something else reasonable, but no, they hated each other’s guts and each wanted 100% of the overlapping land. And as the sayng goes in Real Estate, God’s not making any more of it. So it was a sure bet somebody was gonna walk away unhappy.
Many millions in legal fees later, and after 6 years of interest spent on bunches of idle capital, while bare ungraded dirt sat where entire housing tracts should have been built, an appellate Judge finally banged his gavel & in the manner of Solomon … split the difference.
Human folly knows no bounds, and some fat cats are a lot dumber than you’d expect. Oh well; it kept me in nice Scotch & fast cars all those years.