# What happens if Trump absconds to Russia? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 17, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656 "2023-06-17T03:17:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/21 "2023-06-18T12:33:41Z")
I wonder whether he would expect the secret service to keep up his protection regime in RuZZia. Or in Saudi Arabia, for that matter. And for how long they would do it. Two weeks vacation? Sure, protection is kept up. Two years ignoring citacions, sub poenas etc? Probably less so. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/22 "2023-06-18T14:45:55Z")
It would be the height of ridiculousness if his SS detail accompanied his defection to Russia, and then expected to keep getting paid. OTOH, it wouldn’t surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/23 "2023-06-18T16:08:57Z")
Could make a funny movie though. I can see it now. A detail of 5 SS agents surrounding Trump, with a detail of 12 KGB surrounding them. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/24 "2023-06-18T16:20:05Z")
If Trump absconds to Russia the Republican presidential candidates would be running into church to “praise the Lord”. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/25 "2023-06-18T16:45:07Z")
“We’ll get that extradition paperwork to you in about 2 weeks”. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/26 "2023-06-18T17:41:54Z")
It’s interesting that one of the relevant documents in the Trump indictment is a contingency plan for invading Iran. No doubt, the NSA and DoD have contingency plans for almost everything. So, what’s the contingency plan for Trump’s plane heading for Russian airspace? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/27 "2023-06-18T17:57:27Z")
> [@sweeteviljesus](#): > > allowing the FSB to debrief him I pity whomever ends up tasked with this duty. Trump claims to know everything but can’t stay on topic and has absolutely no problem straight up contradicting himself. I don’t even think truth drugs would work on him because he has his own version of the truth. Trump could bring documents but if the Russians are any good at spycraft at all, they already have them. > [@Dissonance](#): > > Tasty Period (yes, that is really the literal translation of _Vkusno i tochka_) Something about that is so very Russian. > [@tripthicket](#): > > He’ll need to ask Putin for 1) a single-story residence or 2) one with no windows above the first floor. I’m pretty sure in Putin’s Russia it is entirely possible to fall from the tenth story of a one story building. “Da comrade, he fell from tenth floor!” What? That’s impossible! “Yes, tenth floor, would you like to see?” > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > So, what’s the contingency plan for Trump’s plane heading for Russian airspace? It’s an old one, I think they call it Fox 3. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/28 "2023-06-18T18:28:41Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I see Saudi Arabia as a more attractive option from his perspective. > [@enipla](#): > > I think that Trump would like that women are second, or third class citizens. Trump may not like the penalties they have for sexual relations (voluntary or otherwise) with women outside of one’s marriage. Even some members of the extended royal family have been imprisoned or even executed for breaking laws around sex in the kingdom, I don’t expect they’d be lenient with a foreigner in exile, even a former PotUS. It’s an absolute monarchy, Trump would only be welcome and safe as long as the king tolerated him, the moment he falls out of favor some truly bad things could occur. In such circumstances Trump might be lucky if all that happens is the Saudis putting him on an airplane bound for the US to score points with the Americans. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/29 "2023-06-18T18:57:06Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Trump may not like the penalties they have for sexual relations (voluntary or otherwise) with women outside of one’s marriage. VERY good point. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/30 "2023-06-18T22:06:07Z")
> [@Mallard](#): > > If Trump absconds to Russia the Republican presidential candidates would be running into church to “praise the Lord”. No, they would be afraid that the Trumpists would be mad at them if they did that. 55% of Republicans would still support him as the next nominee. And they’d all blame it on Biden. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/31 "2023-06-18T23:52:25Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I don’t think Putin wants him. Putin has even less time for losers than Trump does, and Trump both lost his last election and couldn’t even instigate a coup. Putin has all the time in the world for losers if they can be used as assets, and Trump most definitely can. ---
**Author:** ![montylc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@montylc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/montylc)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/32 "2023-06-19T00:04:16Z")
The russian collusion hoax was exposed as exactly that. keep up. Trump did NOT collude with Russia and that has been proven beyond any doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/33 "2023-06-19T00:09:33Z")
Well, that’s good enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/34 "2023-06-19T00:15:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/35 "2023-06-19T00:16:44Z")
Moderating: > [@montylc](#): > > The russian collusion hoax was exposed as exactly that. keep up. Trump did NOT collude with Russia and that has been proven beyond any doubt. This is your second thread hijack today after joining a mere 6 hours ago. It’s a very bad start. As I told you previously, I suspect you are a troll and you are eliminating doubt with every post. I’m putting your account in suspension for a day while we discuss your fate in the mod loop. * * * To others: Please do not respond to this post. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/36 "2023-06-19T00:28:31Z")
Withdrawn ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/37 "2023-06-19T00:29:57Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/38 "2023-06-19T00:34:39Z")
If Trump is foolish enough to flee to Russia, he will be placed under house arrest to make sure he cannot exercise freedom of speech. If the U.S. seriously wants him extradited, we can do a prisoner exchange. Those negotiations take many months, after which a deal is made. Re Putin, there is no telling how long he will remain in power, so I base my speculation on Russian national interest. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/39 "2023-06-19T01:42:08Z")
Lotta overlap between this thread and another recent one: > [@Hypothetically, if Trump flees the US, where would he go?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetically-if-trump-flees-the-us-where-would-he-go/985460): > > If the deep state or shallow state every catches up with Trump, which country should he settle in (assuming he doesn’t want to face US legal consequences)? Requirements: the foreign country would have to be friendly to Trump and lack an extradition treaty with the US.1 After that, it comes down to quality of life issues. WIki: [List of United States extradition treaties - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties) Saudi Arabia and Russia come to mind. But I think Dubai in the UAE would be most comfortable. UAE has 10 golf cou… I’m not suggesting that this thread is somehow inappropriate or duplicative. I am suggesting that folks interested in this topic may enjoy reading that other thread as well. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656/40 "2023-06-19T02:38:56Z")
> [@sweeteviljesus](#): > > Given that he’d probably be going from memory (unless there are a bunch of documents still missing) and supposedly he didn’t pay much attention in intel briefings, how much of a threat would he really be? There are documents still missing: [https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/02/politics/donald-trump-iran-subpoena/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/02/politics/donald-trump-iran-subpoena/index.html) Some of them may be in New Jersey. But is it really that big a deal? I’m not US intelligence analyst. But at one time Tom Nichols was. Emphasis added: > To understand the severity of the charges against Trump, consider a thought experiment: Imagine that Vladimir Putin is one day driven from the Kremlin, perhaps in a coup or in the face of a popular revolt. He jumps into his limousine and heads for self-imposed exile in a remote dacha. His trunk is full of secret documents that he decided belong to him, including details of the Russian nuclear deterrent and Russia’s [military weaknesses](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/09/nyregion/trump-indictment-highlights.html). > Now imagine how valuable those boxes would be to any intelligence organization in the world. I spent the early years of my career analyzing Soviet and Russian documents as an academic Sovietologist, and I would have loved to see such materials. _Small, seemingly trivial details—something as innocuous as a desk calendar or a notepad—might not mean much to a layperson, but to a professional, they could be pure gold._ To get even a peek at such Russian materials would be an intelligence triumph. He’s discussing documents, but I trust the Russians would bug Trump’s Dacha and send out a rotating set glad handlers to pal around with him. A careless and loose lipped man like Trump would be great for Putin, though not especially for Russia. There’s not much Trump can offer in the way of technology or sustainable business models. > **[Trump’s Indictment Reveals a National-Security Nightmare](https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/06/trumps-indictment-reveals-a-national-security-nightmare/674362/)** > > Republicans are trying to gaslight America about the former president’s astounding recklessness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-absconds-to-russia/985656.md?page=3)