# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/201 "2023-08-12T13:04:07Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> If he goes to prison in Georgia, he may die in prison, let alone get out and live a law-abiding life for five years.

He may die in prison. But presidents have a lot of friends, including doctor friends who will say they are at death’s door to create pressure for early release. Former Taiwan president Chen Shui-bian, sentenced to life, has been on medical release since 2015 despite being now healthy enough to host a radio show.

Yea, I know, different laws. But the pressures on the legal system may not be so different.

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Trump will go from “Healthiest Person I Have Ever Seen” to “At Deaths Door” with the stroke of a highly paid doctors pen.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
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Fani Willis sent out a letter to her staff, instructing them _not to respond_ to trump attacks against her.

> [@](#):
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> Good Morning FCDA Family:  
> It is my understanding that an ad was put in the Atlanta market to run between today 8/9 and 8/13 that will have derogatory and false information about me as the District Attorney of the Atlanta Judicial Circuit. Apparently a lot of money was spent to run this ad in the Atlanta market over the next 5 days. That means the ad will run quite frequently over the next 5 days. Each of you represents me. Especially, ADA’s who all took an oath under my name. We often remind you if you are an ADA you are my personal staff and represent me. Many of you are quite kind to me, very protective, and will become very defensive if someone attempts to attack me, the office or your colleagues. You may not comment in any way on the ad or any of the negativity that may be expressed against me, your colleagues, this office in coming days, weeks or months. We have no personal feelings against those we investigate or prosecute and we should not express any. This is business, it will never be personal.
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> We have a job to do. In this office, we prosecute based on the facts and the law. The law is non-partisan. You should feel no need to defend me. | shared with this office at last Friday’s meeting 1/1000" of the negative or derogatory comments | receive. | invited you into an hour of my typical day. | am not concerned with the calls, emails, or ads and you should not concern yourself with them. This is a reminder that it is against office policy to comment on these matters on social media or any public forum. No employee of this office may make any public comments related to the noise. Your instruction from me is to ignore all the noise and keep doing your job with excellence.
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> Please make it an absolutely phenomenal day and stay safe.

> **[‘Derogatory and false’: Fulton DA denies rumors circulated by Trump](https://www.ajc.com/politics/derogatory-and-false-fulton-da-denies-rumors-circulated-by-trump/YSB6RC7KXZG25COURJFHDA5SGM/)**
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> Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis on Wednesday flatly denied that she had a relationship with a former client and other rumors spread by former President Donald Trump in a new campaign ad.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/204 "2023-08-12T17:34:43Z")

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Looks like Fani Willis will be presenting her case to the Grand Jury early this coming week:

[https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/12/politics/geoff-duncan-georgia-election-probe/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/12/politics/geoff-duncan-georgia-election-probe/index.html)

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> Former Georgia Lt. Gov Geoff Duncan, a Republican, said Saturday on CNN that he has been told to appear Tuesday before a Fulton County grand jury, to testify about the efforts by Trump and his allies.
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> The upcoming appearance signals that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is moving forward with a grand jury presentation where she’s expected to seek charges against more than a dozen people stemming from her investigation into the efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Cool.

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From what I am hearing, 2 days of presentation to the jury with indictments to follow.

I am preparing the celebrational treats and beverages.

Fulton county allows cameras in the courtroom, start stocking snacks now.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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As my mom said when I told her the news: “Goody goody gumdrops!” I think we can all agree on that.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/207 "2023-08-12T19:45:38Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> “Goody goody gumdrops!” I think we can all agree on that.

I’m on board. Do we have no Trumpers left on the SDMB?

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’m on board. Do we have no Trumpers left on the SDMB?

If we do they don’t visit this forum much. Too hard to defend the indefensible? Or just that the average SDMB member is a bit smarter than the average bear and has seen the truth about the man behind the curtain. Maybe not enough to be _against_ him, but enough not to be _for_ him. That’s my theory, anyway.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/209 "2023-08-12T20:13:39Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Do we have no Trumpers left on the SDMB?

We definitely do, yes.

Not naming them right now but we do and they’re active.

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/210 "2023-08-12T21:31:10Z")

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> **[Fulton grand jury to hear Trump case early this week](https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-fulton-grand-jury-to-hear-trump-case-early-next-week/EL7JW7LHTBGHRE2AMJ6OR6AYJ4/)**
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> Former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan was notified he will testify before a Fulton grand jury on Tuesday, suggesting that Fulton DA Fani Willis's Trump case will be presented early next week.

> The timeline came into sharper focus on Saturday, when former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan and independent journalist George Chidi separately confirmed that they received notifications they will testify on Tuesday.The developments raise the likelihood that the public should know whether jurors hand up indictments against the former president and others by Tuesday evening. Willis is expected to begin her presentation to grand jurors on Monday.

I think it’s been pretty widely assumed that Willis was going to present next week and this is just confirmation from some of the officials who’ve been subpoenaed to testify. I think expecting to hear a “verdict” by Tuesday evening is a little ambitious…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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I don’t think we have any open Trump supporters any more, but we do have a few who say “I’m not a Trump supporter, but…” and who then proceed to support everything Trump says and does.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
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Well, not _everything._

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
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The distinction between a “trump supporter” and “a person who gets their facts from Faux _et al_” is pretty darn small. We have many of the latter.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/214 "2023-08-13T17:59:01Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> “We” as in the USA aren’t.
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> “We” as in trump, his inner circle, and much of the rest of the Reactionary Wacko Traitor party, totally are.

But enough of “we” in the US voted for Trump, his inner circle, and much of the rest of the RWT to hand the reins to them and, more dismaying, even after the four-year nightmare instead of being, “What was I _thinking_?” enough of them are planning to do it again that we can’t say for certain it won’t happen.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/215 "2023-08-13T20:10:34Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> But enough of “we” in the US voted for Trump, his inner circle, and much of the rest of the RWT to hand the reins to them and, more dismaying, even after the four-year nightmare instead of being, “What was I _thinking_?” enough of them are planning to do it again that we can’t say for certain it won’t happen.

Granted completely. Our national nightmare with this won’t be over until he and the next two tyrant wannabes have died. I’ll make no comment here about in which way I’d prefer that occur.

My comment was in response to

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> (Actually, my first thought was “yes, this is another sign of the decline of the US as a global hegemon…but are we really worse than, say, the Soviet Union?”)

The we in this case is the US government. Which is not. Yet. As bad as the Soviet Union. Could our government be suborned into a oligarchic kleptocracy or a hereditary dictatorship? You bet. Has it been? No. Yet.

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Could our government be suborned into a oligarchic kleptocracy or a hereditary dictatorship? You bet. Has it been? No. Yet.

I would add an additional subclause of “Not entirely.” before “No. Yet.”

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Yeah, it hasn’t been all that long since someone got elected whose primary qualification was being the son of a previous President.

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I’d go along with at least some of that.

Although the government-sanctioned depradations of e.g. Goldman Sachs in its heyday is nothing compared to e.g. Gazprom’s in its heyday.

We are far less than squeaky clean. But there’s a huge gap between the USA at its worst and the Soviets at their best. Or the oligarchy in early Putinist Russia or Xi’s current China.

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> We are far less than squeaky clean. But there’s a huge gap between the USA at its worst and the Soviets at their best. Or the oligarchy in early Putinist Russia or Xi’s current China.

Agreed, but while your earlier statement was far from doom-saying, it verged on being too optimistic as well. And it’s not limited to the Presidency, as our ongoing thread on Mr. “So many close friends” Thomas, black money funded PACS and the like show. I’m 100% sure you know all of that, but wanted to point out that we’re far closer than we want to admit to falling into such patterns, even though we certainly hope for better.

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Yes.

We totally can lose control of this country and convert it into a giant Mexico or Philippines. I hope we don’t, but it sure could happen.

It is quite late in the day and far too many ordinary people are pulling for us to go over the edge cheering in delight rather than screaming in agony.

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