# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 119
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2361 "2024-02-16T00:00:52Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > What, monetarily, did Wade get out of this relationship? I know he was allegedly being paid more than other special prosecutors Willis hired, but that might have been because he worked more hours. And what in the fuck does any of it have to do with putting Trump on trial? I honestly don’t understand any of this. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2362 "2024-02-16T00:09:22Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > But doing that sort of management is what a lawyer is supposed to do. If you’ve got undeniable, positive evidence of innocence that doesn’t rely on people saying things just the right way nor passing a credibility test, and it can be soundly introduced into the proceedings, then it would be silly not to introduce it. So then logic suggests that introducing that evidence in this case **wasn’t** the best strategy. As to why it wasn’t, we won’t know since we aren’t part of the legal team. Second-guessing them seems a bit silly. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2363 "2024-02-16T00:12:27Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > My understanding is that they’re saying she worked in cash to hide illicit transactions. Your understanding is incorrect. ‘They’ are not saying that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2364 "2024-02-16T00:24:23Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > And what in the fuck does any of it have to do with putting Trump on trial? I honestly don’t understand any of this. It’s about screaming and throwing feces as a show to the MAGAts to demonstrate what a powerful monkey Trump is. That’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2365 "2024-02-16T01:12:22Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Let’s say that someone accuses me of having purple leg hair. And let’s say that if the onlookers choose to trust my accuser then I’ll be punished by death. Should I pull up my pantleg or refuse to do so and say that it’s my accuser’s problem to prove his case? Stripped of its bonkers elements, your argument seems to boil down to, “If you’re innocent, you have nothing to hide.” But let’s add those bonkers elements back in. If your brown leg hair is shaved into an “I HEART Nickelback” pattern and is encrusted with plastic sequins and teeny tiny little penis toys, you might not want to lift that pant leg. Sometimes people engage in perfectly legal activity that they want to keep private, either because they’re not oversharers, or because they know it’ll be used against them by their enemies. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2366 "2024-02-16T01:42:11Z")
I’m going to say this rises to the level of “it doesn’t look”, not the level of disqualification. I must say this judge will definitely be able to handle the multiple defendants/lawyers of this rico case. He handled his courtroom well. There was a very palatable change in the court room after his 5 minute break. Unless they have some sort of “gotchaya” tomorrow, I don’t believe he will disqualify Willis/wade. Heaven help the defence lawyers if they dare to raise this issue in the trial should it go forward. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2367 "2024-02-16T01:45:51Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > There was a very palatable change in the court room after his 5 minute break. It tasted good? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2368 "2024-02-16T01:47:13Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > And what in the fuck does any of it have to do with putting Trump on trial? I honestly don’t understand any of this. I have to agree, and I’ve been a licensed attorney since 2007. This side hearing is **insane**. The idea that the defense attorneys get to take testimony from the _prosecutor_ is **insane**. The idea that we are debating whether a grand jury indictment is politically motivated is **insane** (so what if it is? DAs are _elected_). This whole thing is **insane**. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2369 "2024-02-16T01:48:06Z")
Yes, it tasted of the tears of lawyerly frustration. Palpable, that’s the ticket, palpable. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2370 "2024-02-16T03:12:40Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > This side hearing is **insane**. The idea that the defense attorneys get to take testimony from the _prosecutor_ is **insane**. The idea that we are debating whether a grand jury indictment is politically motivated is **insane** (so what if it is? DAs are _elected_). A couple of things: Pundits think the motion for dismissal, which led to today’s hearing, could have been dismissed as lacking any serious legal argument, but judges in Trump-related trials tend to be cautious, perhaps overly cautious, in avoiding even the appearance of shutting down any defense. I’m not equipped to opine on the wisdom of this. Second, per Andrew Weissmann, the state attorneys this morning were arguing vociferously that the subpoena for Willis’s testimony was wholly baseless and inappropriate and the judge seemed inclined to agree—when Willis interjected saying she waived any objections to the subpoena. Weissmann seemed to think it was a very effective “I’ve got nothing to hide from these assholes” strategy (okay, I’m paraphrasing). ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2371 "2024-02-16T03:43:27Z")
Yes. Without her framing of why she had so much cash, and her relationship thoughts, and the role of men in her life; it could have gone very differently. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2372 "2024-02-16T06:50:11Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > And this effects the actual trial how? Hey! Stop trying to get in the way of a good developing conspiracy theory. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2373 "2024-02-16T07:53:52Z")
Another revolting — for Trump — development (cross-posted from the Schadenfreude thread): > [@A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4159): > > In a similar vein, Judge McAfee (of the Georgia case) told Trump co-defendant David Shafer that he risked being ejected from his courtroom. The warning came after Shafer could be heard laughing during Nathan Wade’s testimony in a hearing over a motion seeking Fani Willis’s disqualification: A co-defendant in the sprawling election interference case against former president Donald Trump in Georgia was warned he could be removed from the courtroom after he laughed during testimony. David Shaf… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2374 "2024-02-16T08:03:40Z")
From everything I’ve heard so far, I am (a) optimistic that Willis will **not** be disqualified and will continue on the case, and (b) fearful of what the lunatics in the Georgia legislature may yet do to try to remove her. Because her basic and unforgivable transgression is bringing criminal charges against the Orange Messiah. It’s no more complicated than that. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2375 "2024-02-16T10:37:07Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > sexual congress, sir. are you speaking of sexual congress? Matt Gaetz: “Hello…” > [@Aspenglow](#): > > Hell, I’d still vote for ya. 😉 I dunno - we’d need full details of any wing wang/hoo ha related activity first. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2376 "2024-02-16T13:49:37Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > And IOKWYW. > > I’m often kinky with your wife? > [@Chronos](#): > > Pretty sure that’s “It’s OK when you’re white”. Yes, @Chronos got it. But I like @Riemann’s version, too. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2377 "2024-02-16T15:12:46Z")
I said it before when people insisted long ago that the Georgia Republicans were going to stop this (and it didn’t happen) and I’ll say it again, Trump pissed off a lot of Georgia Republicans when he went after them. I don’t think he has nearly as strong of a grip there as he does elsewhere. The angry GOP just has to sit on their hands and watch him go down and don’t have to stick their necks out at all to see it happen. He ain’t _their_ messiah. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2378 "2024-02-16T15:16:18Z")
I’ve been watching the live feed of the essentially empty Fulton County courtroom for pretty much an hour, now. I’ve _really_ got to get a life. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2379 "2024-02-16T15:24:30Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I said it before when people insisted long ago that the Georgia Republicans were going to stop this (and it didn’t happen) and I’ll say it again, Trump pissed off a lot of Georgia Republicans when he went after them. At the time, I was surprised by how many Republicans, Georgia Republicans, just went along with Trump telling the whole world they couldn’t run a fair election. As leader of the party, he’s supposed to be a unifying force. The party leader should work to bring as many Republicans into the fold as possible. But he demonstrated he doesn’t have a problem throwing the party under the bus if it gets Trump what he wants. These days I’m surprised when Republicans stand up to him. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/2380 "2024-02-16T15:51:18Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > This whole thing is **insane**. At this point I expect the Trump attorneys to bring in a huge blown up picture of Hunter Biden’s penis, wave it about and yell “IF YOU SEE A DICK, YOU MUST ACQUIT!” That would fit in with their “strategy” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=118) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=120)