# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023)

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**Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\
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My understanding is the Newsweek that is online has no institutional connection to the former newsmagazine

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> [@Steven\_G](#):
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> claiming more voters than residents

Usually , that nonsense comes when they compare vote totals to some census from years prior. Obviously, there would be more voters if more people moved there.

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In at least one case, it was because there was a 2 page ballot, and the data from the tabulators reflected the number of sheets of paper scanned, not the number of ballots, which was half that.

[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN27Q2PR/](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN27Q2PR/)

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Usually , that nonsense comes when they compare vote totals to some census from years prior. Obviously, there would be more voters if more people moved there.

There was also one claim (there are so many I can’t keep track) where the number of votes was compared to the number of people living in a county with the same name, but in a different state.

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**Author:** ![Steven\_G](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_g/32/5080_2.png) [@Steven\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_G)\
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Mark Wingate is (and was in 2020) a member of the Fulton County Board of Elections and Registrations, so he’s a little different to the usual conspiracy nut. Plus he made the allegations in a formal hearing. There are of course a load of shouty videos on YouTube, but I don’t see much by way of any response/put-downs from the usual sites.  
Is getting the Fulton population and voting numbers easy?

Just wouldn’t be a shock to see Trump’s legal team dragging this into the case.

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Wasn’t the woman who helped Rudy G break into voting machines also a member of the board of elections?  
(Speaking of Rudy G, is that guy in prison yet?)

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I’ve lost track of all of Giuliani’s legal woes, but here’s a summary from back in December:

> **[Rudy Giuliani's 11 court cases, ranked in order of how screwed he is](https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-court-cases-criminal-civil-ranked-screwed)**
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> Rudy Giuliani faces legal issues ranging from defamation to election interference. Here are all his court cases ranked in order of how screwed he is.

Only two of those are criminal, with #1 being the Georgia case and #2 being Giuliani’s status as “Unindicted co-conspirator #1” in the DC case. So the Georgia case, which is grinding along slowly, is likely to be the first chance to put Rudy behind bars.

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> [@Steven\_G](#):
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> re-hashed old debunked stuff?

[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN28E26W/](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN28E26W/)

For example-  
LANSING

_The posts falsely claim that votes in Lansing exceeded the city’s population by nearly 38,000. Lansing is mostly located in Ingham County, where Biden won 65.2% of the vote ([here](https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-ELECTION/RESULTS-LIVE/qzjpqadqapx/index.html?st=WI).%C2%A0);_

_The U.S. Census Bureau estimated Lansing’s population to be 118,210 in July 2019 ([here](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/lansingcitymichigan),%C2%A0on) par with the posts’ 118,427 population figure that likely comes from Data Commons ([here](https://datacommons.org/place/geoId/2646000).%C2%A0);_

_The vote count of 156,295, however, is nearly triple the real number._

_Robin Stites, Election Supervisor at the Lansing City Clerk’s Office, told Reuters via email that voter turnout in the City of Lansing for the Nov. 3 election was 54,045 out of 88,873 registered voters, equivalent to a 60.81% voter turnout rate._

_Thus 46% of Lansing’s population voted in the 2020 general election._

> **[Fact-check: Were there more votes than registered voters in 2020 election?](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/04/06/fact-check-were-there-more-votes-than-registered-voters-2020/9469305002/)**
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> In Ohio, Republican candidate Mike Gibbons falsely says more votes than registered voters in 2020 election

In the amount of actual fraudulent votes is always insignificant, and in 2020 mostly Republican.

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There’s a new prosecutor in town. I don’t know much about him, but hopefully he’s clean. (I hope this is the right thread.)

> **[Prosecutor appointed to investigate Georgia Lt. Gov. Burt Jones in election...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/prosecutor-appointed-investigate-georgia-lt-gov-burt-jones/story?id=109139263)**
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> A prosecutor has been appointed to continue the investigation into Georgia Lt. Gov. Burt Jones, who became ensnared in the state's election interference probe.

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> In a statement, Jones said he was “happy to see this process move forward and look forward to the opportunity to get this charade behind me.”
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> “Fani Willis has made a mockery of this legal process, as she tends to do,” Jones said. “I look forward to a quick resolution and moving forward with the business of the state of Georgia.”

Sounds like he’s pretty much made up his mind.

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So Pete Skandalakis will be investigating Jones for investigating Willis for investigating Trump?

I’m gonna need a diagram soon.

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All this investigating deserves an investigation, don’t you think?

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That quote was from Jones; the investigator, Skandalakis, simply announced that he had appointed himself and there would be no further comment.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> There’s a new prosecutor in town. I don’t know much about him, but hopefully he’s clean. (I hope this is the right thread.)
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> [https://abcnews.go.com/US/prosecutor-appointed-investigate-georgia-lt-gov-burt-jones/story?id=109139263](https://abcnews.go.com/US/prosecutor-appointed-investigate-georgia-lt-gov-burt-jones/story?id=109139263)

This article is weirdly unclear – is Skandalis directly replacing Nathan Wade in the Trump Georgia case? The one being heard before Judge Scott McAfee? Wade’s name is not mentioned once in the article (unless I missed it).

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I had missed that Fani Willis had held a political fundraiser while investigating Jones in 2022. It’s a shame that her political partisanship is so easy to establish – it gives the Trump defendants lots of ammo.

Then again … if Willis’ post were held by a partisan Republican, the Trump Georgia case never happens at all. What a world.

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> I had missed that Fani Willis had held a political fundraiser while investigating Jones in 2022. It’s a shame that her political partisanship is so easy to establish – it gives the Trump defendants lots of ammo.

DA is an elected office. Is she not supposed to fund raise for her campaign?

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During summer 2022, Willis fundraised for Democratic Lt. Governor candidate Charlie Bailey while investigating his Republican opponent, the aforementioned Burt Jones. From **Love\_Rhombus’** link:

> The investigation into Jones was stalled after Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis [was disqualified](https://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-prosecutor-barred-investigating-16-alleged-fake-electors/story?id=87373998) in July of 2022 from investigating him, after she held a fundraiser for his political opponent.

But then … since county DA in Georgia is an elected position and one presumes DA candidates run under a party banner, maybe this kind of thing is unavoidable in Georgia.

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I’m looking at **Love\_Rhombus** ’ link again, and I still can’t tell if it pertains to the Trump Georgia case or not. It appears Skandalis is only investigating one person (Burt Jones) as opposed to the multiple defendants in the Trump Georgia case. Or is Jones a defendant in Trump Georgia, and there’s some kind of special carveout for him, somehow … ? Hard to tell what’s going on – is Skandalis a replacement for Nathan Wade? If not, Skandalis just works on one defendant (Jones), while another someone more fully replaces Nathan Wade’s role?

I’ll bet Trump doesn’t think at all about the Georgia case anymore. It’s cooked in this layman’s not-all-that-informed opinion, and probably still cooked even if he loses the general election. It’s all too tangled up. It was always going to be complicated to prosecute, but egad – this thing is just falling apart more and more by the day.

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> I still can’t tell if it pertains to the Trump Georgia case or not.

I couldn’t really tell either, though I haven’t been following the Georgia case too closely. I just thought it overlaps enough to share.

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Back in 2022, Willis was blocked from including Jones in her investigation because of a political conflict of interest.

[https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/politics/georgia-willis-jones-grand-jury/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/politics/georgia-willis-jones-grand-jury/index.html)

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Back in 2022, Willis was blocked from including Jones in her investigation because of a political conflict of interest .
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/politics/georgia-willis-jones-grand-jury/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/politics/georgia-willis-jones-grand-jury/index.html)

OK, Looks like Burt Jones wasn’t one of the 19 defendants names last fall (see below). I guess Jones could have been the twentieth defendant in different circumstances.

> **[The 19 people accused of trying to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia to...](https://apnews.com/article/trump-georgia-fraud-defendants-201d73d2a6b165d06230961af9f21b61)**
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> Here’s a look at the 19 people charged with participating in an illegal scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in Georgia.

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> the investigator, Skandalakis, simply announced that he had appointed himself and there would be no further comment.

🤦

Huge reading failure on my part. Thanks for the correction.

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