# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/561 "2023-08-15T23:53:05Z")
This discusses the details of moving to a federal court. > **[Don’t Let Donald Trump Take His Case to Federal Court](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/trump-georgia-indictment-motion-remove/675019/)** > > Doing so would intrude on Georgia’s right and obligation to defend its own laws and choose its own presidential electors. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/562 "2023-08-15T23:56:20Z")
Thank you, I just scanned the fed indictment. I remember it was recently reported that smith had subpoenaed Twitter and that I was a bit of a grind. The tea leaf readers thought it might be so they could tell more precisely where the message originated. One place it states (22) “issued a tweet”, and other place it states (87) “tweeting”. All the ones in ga say “caused”. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/563 "2023-08-15T23:56:24Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I agree with you, but I’m not seeing that latter bit. Maybe I am just not searching properly. Well, some people view [the law Kemp signed in May](https://apnews.com/article/brian-kemp-georgia-prosecutor-district-attorney-remove-7987cd538ab3ccdc713ae4d2b2aec32b) to be a potential method for the GOP to remove Willis, though I agree no overt steps have yet to be taken in that regard as the law does not go into effect until October, IIRC. That said, I think it is safe to say that the _vast majority_ of GOP politicians who have gone on record about all the Trump indictments are against them, and I think it is safe to say that’s _likely_ true for GA state pols. Will they do anything about it? Are they already behind the scenes? Too soon to say. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/564 "2023-08-15T23:57:20Z")
See, these folks get it! > Doing so would intrude on Georgia’s right and obligation to defend its own laws and choose its own presidential electors. I said the same thing. > [@Atamasama](#): > > This was an attack on Georgia’s elections, and they have jurisdiction. There should be a high bar to clear before usurping that authority. I think this is why this isn’t going to go anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/565 "2023-08-15T23:59:56Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > That said, I think it is safe to say that the _vast majority_ of GOP politicians who have gone on record about all the Trump indictments are against them, and I think it is safe to say that’s _likely_ true for GA state pols. Will they do anything about it? Are they already behind the scenes? Too soon to say. So I don’t think it should be definitively stated that they will absolutely act to obstruct these proceedings. It _might_ happen, but I think I gave a good reason why it might not, and we shouldn’t just take it as a given that it will. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/566 "2023-08-16T00:21:47Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > we shouldn’t just take it as a given that it will. I agree. In general, state politicians and officials have acquitted themselves better than their federal counterparts when it comes to Trump’s election crimes, but that’s a low fucking bar. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/567 "2023-08-16T00:22:31Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > In general, state politicians and officials have acquitted themselves better than their federal counterparts when it comes to Trump’s election crimes, but that’s a low fucking bar. “Look, we’re evil, but we’re not _that_ evil for crying out loud.” ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/568 "2023-08-16T00:56:46Z")
Individual 3, i believe is digenova. Page 20 and what should be act 3, digenova was with the other three at that press conference. That was the melting Rudy press conference. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/569 "2023-08-16T02:33:53Z")
[Kemp says the election was not stolen and that there has been no evidence of fraud.](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/15/georgia-governor-brian-kemp-trump-2020-election-not-stolen) Christie of course backed him. Would Kemp be much better than the current group of candidates? ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/570 "2023-08-16T02:42:28Z")
Kemp’s a Republican, so of course I disagree with most of his policies, but he hasn’t been the worst governor. Not a rabid wolverine or a total whack job. He is pro forced birth and thinks way too much about what bathrooms people use, did away with gun permits and just let’s everyone open carry. But he’s no DeSantis. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/571 "2023-08-16T02:43:33Z")
Uhhhh. Do some investigating into how he wormed his way into his governorship before reaching a conclusion. > **[Georgia's Stacey Abrams Admits Defeat, Says Kemp Used 'Deliberate'...](https://www.npr.org/2018/11/16/668753230/democrat-stacey-abrams-ends-bid-for-georgia-governor-decrying-suppression)** > > Republican Brian Kemp will be the next governor of Georgia, with Democrat Stacey Abrams bowing out Friday afternoon. She promised a "major federal lawsuit" against the state over voting practices. He certainly created a lot of doubt around the legitimacy of his election in 2018 by refusing to step down as Secretary of State as he ran for the governorship. Using that position enabled him to disenfranchise a bunch of voters – virtually guaranteeing his own win. I mean, I agree with @MulderMuffin, he’s maybe better than Trump or DeSantis. But that’s a really low bar. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/572 "2023-08-16T02:47:27Z")
And given how much trouble DeSantis has brought on himself, following his lead would seem to be a bad idea for any intelligent politician even if you agreed with him. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/573 "2023-08-16T02:51:40Z")
Maggie Haberman, in a CNN interview, said that the “report” Trump will be pooping out on Monday is just a rehash of all the conspiracy theories that have already been debunked about “massive fraud” in Georgia. Not sure how Trump thinks this is going to help. 9/11 Truthers have been doing this for 22 years now and all they have managed to do is prove “repeat something until it becomes true” has a point of diminishing returns. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/574 "2023-08-16T02:55:22Z")
Giuliani dismissed the case as an “election dispute” and nothing to apply RICO laws to. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/575 "2023-08-16T03:52:12Z")
Well, he knows all about RICO, so that’s that, then. Glad he was able to clear it up in short order. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/576 "2023-08-16T03:52:50Z")
Ironic since Giuliani applied these laws extremely broadly. A Canadian perspective on American political culture. > **[Donald Trump’s Georgia indictments mark a substantial change in American...](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-donald-trumps-georgia-indictments-mark-a-substantial-change-in/)** > > The shock value of the indictments has been devalued as what once would have been considered shocking is becoming ordinary ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/577 "2023-08-16T04:07:05Z")
Paywalled. Just the headline. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/578 "2023-08-16T04:18:51Z")
**(Excerpt: Toronto Globe, see post 576)** _…But beneath the eyes-glazed-over reaction to yet another indictment – this one with 41 felony charges targeted at 18 figures beyond Mr. Trump and set out in 98 vivid pages describing a “criminal enterprise” – the ground has shifted in American political culture._ _The governing wisdom in this parlous period of American history – one in which a former president is portrayed as a mob boss and is being prosecuted under a Godfather-era legal approach designed to battle organized crime – may well come from a 20th century English novelist, Graham Greene. “It is a great danger for everyone,” he wrote in Our Man in Havana, published in 1958, “when what is shocking changes.”_ _Critics in the decades that followed publication of the novel often said that it foreshadowed the Cuban missile crisis that occurred four years later. But the truth of his one-sentence meditation on danger and change is clear today, six decades after Nikita Khrushchev removed the missiles from Cuba, only 145 kilometres from Florida._ _In those long-ago days, when Mr. Trump was a student at the New York Military Academy, Americans thought the great threat to their national survival was Mr. Khrushchev. It was inconceivable – literally, beyond the capacity to be believed – that an elected president would pose a threat to the country’s most cherished values and traditions. Mr. Trump and his allies scoff at the notion, presented in his indictment earlier this month in Washington and again in the indictment from the state of Georgia unsealed Monday. But at their core, that is the implication of the charges – and the reaction, from Trump supporters and opponents alike, speaks to the great danger when what is shocking changes._ _…Already the shock value of a presidential impeachment had been devalued; no president faced that for the 130 years between Andrew Johnson in 1868 and Bill Clinton in 1998. In the past quarter century, there have been three impeachments – Mr. Clinton’s and the two involving Mr. Trump. Richard Nixon resigned the presidency in 1974 to avoid both certain impeachment in the House of Representatives and conviction and removal from office in Senate votes._ _Now the shock value of a past-president’s indictment – even one with strains of Mario Puzo, the Mafia crime writer – has been shorn of its shock value. That has been normalized much the way Mr. Trump’s comportment – his defiance of presidential customs, his employment of disparaging comments – have been normalized._ ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/579 "2023-08-16T04:31:19Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > In general, state politicians and officials have acquitted themselves better than their federal counterparts when it comes to Trump’s election crimes, but that’s a low fucking bar. Didn’t the Arizona State Legislature hire the cyber monkeys to investigate election fraud? And then didn’t the cyber monkeys themselves tamper with voting machines in the course of their State-sanctioned “investigation”? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/580 "2023-08-16T11:21:40Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Not sure how Trump thinks this is going to help. He gets to have a press conference! With cameras! And microphones! And maybe some reporters from CNN will show up and he’ll get to insult them to their faces and they’ll just have to stand there and take it and he’ll feel like big man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=30)