# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023)

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**Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\
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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Didn’t the Arizona State Legislature hire the cyber monkeys to investigate election fraud?

Well, yes, and that effort was led by the Senate President, IIRC. However, the AZ Secretary of State denounced the effort and the Board of Supervisors (4/5 GOP) forcefully rebutted the Cyber Ninjas report.

NY Times:

> The county supervisors had denounced the Senate’s review for months as partisan theatrics aimed at mollifying the substantial far-right share of the state’s Republican voters. But the board’s chairman, Bill Gates, a Republican, went further on Thursday, drawing a straight line between tolerance for “extreme misinformation” and political violence like the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> He gets to have a press conference! With cameras! And microphones! And maybe some reporters from CNN will show up and he’ll get to insult them to their faces and they’ll just have to stand there and take it and he’ll feel like big man.

And then afterwards he’ll get _two_ scoops of ice cream!

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Maggie Haberman, in a CNN interview, said that the “report” Trump will be pooping out on Monday is just a rehash of all the conspiracy theories that have already been debunked about “massive fraud” in Georgia. Not sure how Trump thinks this is going to help.

[As I said in the Jan. 7 thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4492), this report is pure 4D chess.

Trump probably thinks that none of his actions were crimes because he truly believed the election was stolen. (After all, everyone on social media says so.) So this report doesn’t have to prove anything, because its very existence will demonstrate how very thoroughly Trump still believes the election was stolen – and that, therefore, he’s completely innocent.

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Perhaps the pillow guy’s giant board of conspiracy will make another appearance? Sorry I can’t link on my new/old phone. The one that has people and events spiraling in to a picture of DJT.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> this report is pure 4D chess.

I doubt it. It’s barely tic-tac-toe.

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> He gets to have a press conference! With cameras! And microphones!

Heh. Read this and immediately flashed back on my late cat Sophie, who loved people so much that she enjoyed vet visits – because there were People! who paid Attention! to her, even though it meant the butt-spear of temperature-taking. Too bad any press conference for this PERFECT report won’t feature any similar experience for Himself.

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An interesting opinion. Hope she’s right.

Full Title: **“Just Say That the Election Was Corrupt, and Leave the Rest to Me”: In Georgia, Donald Trump Appears Beyond F–ked** – The ex-president operated like a Mafia boss and, thanks to a new racketeering charge, may go down like one too.

> **[“Just Say That the Election Was Corrupt, and Leave the Rest to Me”: In...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/donald-trump-georgia-indictment)**
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> The ex-president operated like a Mafia boss and, thanks to a new racketeering charge, may go down like one too.

From that article:

> While Trump has obviously been indicted before—[see the Manhattan hush money indictment](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/donald-trump-hush-money-arraignment), [**Jack Smith** ’s classified-documents indictment](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/06/donald-trump-indictment-classified-documents), and [Smith’s election-interference indictment](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/donald-trump-2020-election-federal-indictment)—the Georgia case should be [especially worrisome to him](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/donald-trump-georgia-indictment-most-sweeping-yet) given that 1) he can’t simply pardon himself if he becomes president again, as the case is state and not federal, and 2) the racketeering charge alone carries a [minimum sentence](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-indicted-georgia-racketeering-rcna74912) of five years in prison, with a maximum of 20. (Other counts would of course also come with prison time; a conspiracy conviction, for example, would result in a minimum of a year in prison.)

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> “Just Say That the Election Was Corrupt, and Leave the Rest to Me”

I remember when he said that, and that quote has not received _nearly_ as much exposure as it should have. Everyone goes on about him asking for the AG to ‘find’ 11,780 votes, but this quote, in Trump’s own voice, seems like the damn-hammer.

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> …People! who paid Attention! to her, even though it meant the **butt-spear of temperature-taking.**

My bold.

Now the prospect of seeing THAT (_the look on his face only_) might make me tune into a trump press conference. With the sound muted, of course.

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Of course it would depend if they could gain access.

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> But I think we’d have heard about it if Meadows had surrendered. I’m pretty sure the media have the Fulton County Sheriff’s Department staked out to see who’s shown up for their surrender – and who hasn’t

The logistics of the surrenders has me wondering this morning. Will there be a mad 19-person rush at the court house around 11:45 on Friday the 25th? Will they trickle in all through next week? Who will be first? Who will be last? Will there be any no-shows? Will any of the lesser knowns be held in custody before trial? So many questions.

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> [@xizor](#):
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> Will there be any no-shows?

Yeah, and what will happen with the no-shows? Will Georgia State Marshalls track them down and bring them in? US Marshalls? Dog the Bounty Hunter?

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Whoever routinely executes on failure to appear warrants will have the responsibility to act. Fani Willis promised business as usual, and I believe that’s exactly how it will go for any FTAs (failures to appear).

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> And then didn’t the cyber monkeys themselves tamper with voting machines in the course of their State-sanctioned “investigation”?

They did, indeed, and the FEC highly recommended they be replaced before the next election. The Pubs correctly claim that the… audit did not involve taxpayer money. I have not heard whether the new machines did or not.

I’m still going through the indictment and I’m curious about the different methods of names, or lack thereof. The indicted are invariably **UPPER CASE BOLD** (I’m lookin’ at _you_, Donald.) but the ones _receiving_ the email, phone call, or marching orders can be Unindicted individual X, “in the Trump campaign office” or at least one case, by name.

The first I can understand, they’re in deeper than “just followed orders” but not enough to take before a grand jury (yet), but why the variety of the last two. Why name one guy?

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Detailed article from Lawfare on what happened in Coffee County:

> **[What the Heck Happened in Coffee County, Georgia?](https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-the-heck-happened-in-coffee-county-georgia)**
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> A detailed look back at the computer intrusion that features prominently in Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’s election interference indictment

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> > "They never went after those that Rigged the Election. They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!” Trump wrote on the social network Truth Social.

Hmmm, I haven’t seen Trump refer to the white Jack Smith as a “rigger”. It’s only the Black people who get that label. I’m sure it’s completely unintentional.

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My ex-wife spent her teens in Coffee County, her father dying in Douglas a couple of decades ago. She hated it and left as soon as possible, when she went to Georgia Southern, and then UGA.

She described it as corrupt, small minded, etc. I spent time there, visiting her dad, and yes, the biggest things in town were the high school football team and the Walmart Distribution Center. And I have zero doubt that those people would do something this stupid.

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> …the biggest things in town were the high school football team and the Walmart Distribution Center

That also describes many a small town in Texas.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> That also describes many a small town in Texas.

I get the impression that it describes many a small town all over the country. (Apologies if this it too much of a hijack.)

🎶 _Memories of East Texas_  
_And Gilmer, county seat of Upshur_  
_Looking back and asking myself_  
_‘What the hell’d you let them break your spirit for?’_  
_You know, their lives ran in circles so small_  
_Ah, they thought they’d seen it all_  
_And they could not make a place for a girl who’d seen the ocean_ 🎶

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My question about Coffee County, possibly a naive one, is why the Trump people thought to go after it when Trump won it by a large margin.

They couldn’t reasonably complain that he should have won 80% or 90% of the Coffee County vote, instead of the 70% (or whatever) he did win by, when no other surrounding rural county had votes quite that lopsided, could they? Seems a nutty sort of place to argue that you got screwed out of votes when the Democrats were conceding a 2-1 loss to begin with.

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