# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/901 "2023-08-24T15:33:09Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Wants his trial severed from the rest of the group, hoping that without all of the RICO backup of conspiracy charges, only being charged with his own actions, he’ll be found not guilty. Severing a defendant’s trial from his codefendants’ trial doesn’t affect any of the charges. A defendant charged with conspiracy, or some other crime on an accountability basis (e.g., getaway driver charged with murder because a fellow bank robber shot a guard), doesn’t have those charges go away merely because his/her trial is severed. A severance affects what evidence the trier of fact hears, not the charges. A major example of that is the [Bruton rule.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruton_v._United_States) Codefendant B’s confession can’t be used against defendant A, only defendant A’s own confession. (Of course B’s confession can be used against B, and the Bruton rule doesn’t help A if B him/herself testifies to finger A.) But I don’t see this as a case where confessions (admissions of guilt made out of court and after the fact) will be playing a significant role, if any. Conspirators’ own words before the fact, definitely. Co-conspirator testimony, hopefully. 🙂 If I had to hazard a guess, the logistics of having to introduce the same government evidence in multiple severed trials will trump 🤣 defense arguments for severance. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/902 "2023-08-24T15:43:12Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > A severance affects what evidence the trier of fact hears, not the charges. That’s kind of what I was going for, though far less well put than your own explanation. I was positing that a Chesebro solo trial probably wouldn’t bring in the whole scope of evidence and connect all the dots that the solidified RICO trial will bring to bear. That he may successfully move to exclude a lot of evidence and testimony that _leads_ to his own guilty actions but doesn’t directly include him. As one of the 19 it’s almost certain that a guilty verdict would include him by default. Tried alone, he may successfully explain or downplay his contributions to the plot well enough to wriggle free. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/903 "2023-08-24T15:43:28Z")
My guess is that he’s hoping the Fani Willis won’t be fully prepared to go to trial and the prosecution’s case will suffer. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/904 "2023-08-24T16:07:15Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > I was positing that a Chesebro solo trial probably wouldn’t bring in the whole scope of evidence and connect all the dots that the solidified RICO trial will bring to bear. That he may successfully move to exclude a lot of evidence and testimony that _leads_ to his own guilty actions but doesn’t directly include him Each conspirator is responsible for all the actions of every other conspirator. So, in theory, Chesebro’s trial could see the identical evidence as a joint 19 defendant trial. In practice, the prosecutor may elect to trim it down to the core conduct of Chesebro. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/905 "2023-08-24T16:30:57Z")
this is my thinking. sometimes you can rush the prosecution and they falter. risky, but then going to trial at any time is a risk. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/906 "2023-08-24T17:04:25Z")
LOL > ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/907 "2023-08-24T17:12:35Z")
that would be quite the speedy trial. i must say defendant one has given the nation quite the law lessons. [request-for-oct-23-trial-date.pdf (documentcloud.org)](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23926016/request-for-oct-23-trial-date.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/908 "2023-08-24T17:14:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > LOL Well there goes any hope they might have that Willis isn’t fully prepared to go to trial. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/909 "2023-08-24T17:15:52Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > My guess is that he’s hoping the Fani Willis won’t be fully prepared to go to trial and the prosecution’s case will suffer. Good luck. Or that, worst case, like Lula da Silva, he spends a spell in jail, and then gets re-elected. I read [url= [Transcript Library: Transcripts of Public Speech - Rev](https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts) ]the transcript of [/url]last night’s Trump-Carlson interview. No attacks on judges. This was the worse: > [@](#): > > Everyone says, even the Democrats say, “You can’t bring these cases. You have no case.” The Attorney General or the District Attorney, Fani Willis in Atlanta, she’s getting killed. Basically, she’s saying, “Trump doesn’t have the right to criticize an election.” But you’ve been around long enough now, you’ve seen many elections criticized. Hillary Clinton goes crazy. The key phrase above is “getting killed.” But by whom? If called on it, Trump will say he meant that she has been criticized in (right-wing) media. Carlson repeatedly baited Trump with questions about future violence, but DJT AFAIK didn’t say anything that could lead to a his own contempt jailing. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/910 "2023-08-24T17:29:00Z")
> Without waiving any objection as to the sufficiency of Defendant Kenneth John Chesebro’s filing, the State requests that this Court specially set the trial in this case to commence on October 23, 2023, which falls within the term of the "next succeeding regular court term❞ after the July-August, 2023 term of the Superior Court of Fulton County, Atlanta Judicial Circuit, as contemplated by Fani Willis: Okay, sure, whatever you want. I’m good with October 2023. 🙂 😆 ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/911 "2023-08-24T17:36:14Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Carlson repeatedly baited Trump with questions about future violence, but DJT didn’t say anything that could lead to a his own contempt jailing. So you’re saying that Trump actually knows how to think before he speaks? This is the guy who just a few days ago tweeted in all caps “IF YOU COME AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU”. I didn’t watch the interview, but I’m curious: did Trump really use his brain and speak rationally? How did his handlers prompt him? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/912 "2023-08-24T17:48:23Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Well there goes any hope they might have that Willis isn’t fully prepared to go to trial. I’d take the view that, either Chesebro (as a lawyer) is himself ready to go to trial and already has his defense ready OR he’s an egotistical idiot with a distant understanding of reality, who’s compounding one act of self-destruction with a new one. I’m leaning towards option 2. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/913 "2023-08-24T18:17:34Z")
Today is the announced court date for DJT. The Onion is prepared. > **[Nation’s Liberals Anxiously Waiting With Unzipped Pants To Jerk Off To Trump...](https://www.theonion.com/nation-s-liberals-anxiously-waiting-with-unzipped-pants-1850770728)** > > ATLANTA—Hopping from foot to foot in front of their laptop and phone screens in fevered anticipation of the former president’s photo, the nation’s liberals reportedly anxiously waited with unzipped pants Thursday for the moment they could finally... ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/914 "2023-08-24T18:53:02Z")
Trump and his new attorney have filed a motion to sever his action from Chesebro’s, which forced a setting of a trial date of October 23, 2023. Not a surprise. I’m sure his won’t be the last such motion. With the additional complications of several defendants filing to have their cases removed to federal court, the case is fast becoming a bit of a mess. By design, no doubt. Monday will be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/915 "2023-08-24T19:14:38Z")
Looks like Meadows has decided to follow the law and turn himself in, rather than starring in the reboot of “The Fugitive”. I’m so sad that it was so inconvenient for him to make last minute travel arrangements. 1 Hope he managed a last minute deal on Travelocity.2 1. No I’m not 2. Hope he didn’t ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/916 "2023-08-24T19:19:12Z")
Harrison Floyd turned himself in without a bond arrangement and is currently being held in custody. It’s possible that no bond deal was made, because he’s the dude who was also charged in May for assaulting an FBI agent who delivered a suboena to him. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/917 "2023-08-24T19:21:29Z")
Hors d’oeuvre: > ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/918 "2023-08-24T19:41:48Z")
did someone punch him in the eye? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/919 "2023-08-24T19:49:46Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Today is the announced court date for DJT. The Onion is prepared. I came by to post that link. I have heard we may not get his mug show until 4PM tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/920 "2023-08-24T19:51:54Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > did someone punch him in the eye? Maybe he’s a blubber. > **[Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows frequently cries at work: report](https://nypost.com/2020/04/18/trump-chief-of-staff-mark-meadows-frequently-cries-at-work-report/)** > > Nobody said the job was easy. Former North Carolina Congressman Mark Meadows, just weeks on the job as President Trump’s chief of staff, has already been brought to tears at work on several o… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=47)