# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1101 "2023-08-25T20:35:14Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Those two Truth posts quoted upthread appear to have been taken down. I wonder if his lawyers got to him on it ? > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Those were two Imgur-hosted screencaps. Yeah, oops. I had saved them in my Imgur account to post but later deleted them because they were sullying my photos by their presence. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1102 "2023-08-25T23:43:18Z")
[Trump co-defendant Harrison Floyd will remain in jail after judge said she will not issue bond today](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/georgia-trump-indictment-surrender-08-25-23/index.html) > [@](#): > > [Judge] Richardson said. “I’m going to go ahead and find that you are a risk to commit additional felonies and a potential risk to flee the jurisdiction." . . . > > Floyd does not have representation and told the judge that he could not afford a private attorney. Richardson told Floyd he did not meet the eligibility requirements for obtaining a public defender. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1103 "2023-08-26T00:20:05Z")
After decades of paying the legal bills for people who are loyal to him, Trump’s decision to abandon his alleged co-conspirators could be straining the loyalty of onetime allies. [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/22/trump-co-defendants-in-georgia-face-massive-legal-bills.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/22/trump-co-defendants-in-georgia-face-massive-legal-bills.html) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1104 "2023-08-26T00:24:03Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Trump co-defendant Harrison Floyd will remain in jail after judge said she will not issue bond today I had to read that 3 times before I realized it said “Harrison Floyd” and not “Harrison Ford”. Not your fault, that was a good headline. But I thought it was a funny mental slip. Carry on. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1105 "2023-08-26T00:24:45Z")
I’m glad I’m not the only one. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1106 "2023-08-26T00:31:34Z")
The question is Does this guy flip on Trump in less than 12 parsecs? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1107 "2023-08-26T00:37:14Z")
It is a bit disconcerting. Gives one a bit of a moment. He is the only one being held. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1108 "2023-08-26T00:46:15Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > He is the only one being held. Well, that happens when you assault an FBI agent who’s just trying to serve you with a subpoena. I have little sympathy, frankly. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1109 "2023-08-26T00:52:39Z")
Trump needs to stick with a higher class of co-conspirator that can afford their own damn lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1110 "2023-08-26T01:06:16Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > After decades of paying the legal bills for people who are loyal to him, Trump’s decision to abandon his alleged co-conspirators could be straining the loyalty of onetime allies. > > [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/22/trump-co-defendants-in-georgia-face-massive-legal-bills.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/22/trump-co-defendants-in-georgia-face-massive-legal-bills.html) If I understand your link correctly, a rich defendant can influence poorer co-defendants to take the rich man’s side by paying legal bills. Sounds wrong. It also sounds like it would be a way to evade Trump’s bail conditions. And if I understand this next correctly, the Georgia plea bargain rate is over 90 percent: [Statistics show that less than 10 percent of defendants actually go on trial.](https://atlnotguilty.com/2018/06/plea-bargains/) It is going to be in the interests of most defendants to plea bargain rather than risk a very long sentence, regardless of guilt or innocence. Trump’s lawyers will ask if testimony was conditioned on a lesser sentence. If the answer is yes, IMHO the jury should ignore that testimony due to it being bought and paid for, in the coin of a lesser sentence, by the government. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1111 "2023-08-26T01:11:51Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > It is going to be in the interests of most defendants to plea bargain rather than risk a very long sentence, regardless of guilt or innocence… No offense intended, but this sounds a little nutty. If I’m innocent, I’m not pleading guilty to anything. (Which is what accepting a plea bargain comes down to.) ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1112 "2023-08-26T01:21:09Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > If the answer is yes, IMHO the jury should ignore that testimony due to it being bought and paid for, in the coin of a lesser sentence, by the government. The prosecution does not rely solely on the testimony of someone who flipped. They buttress the testimony with corroborating evidence. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1113 "2023-08-26T01:28:08Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > After decades of paying the legal bills for people who are loyal to him, Trump’s decision to abandon his alleged co-conspirators could be straining the loyalty of onetime allies. Is there any evidence that he actually **DID** pay others’ legal bills? I thought he stiffed everyone. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1114 "2023-08-26T01:29:45Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > If the answer is yes, IMHO the jury should ignore that testimony due to it being bought and paid for, in the coin of a lesser sentence, by the government. And this is different from how every prosecution of every petty criminal in the land is handled how? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1115 "2023-08-26T01:39:57Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Also, a related question: > What is the legal rationale for a state law that regulates a request for a speedy trial? It is clearly stated in the Constitution that all trials are to be speedy. The legal rational is that it’s clearly stated in the Constitution. The Constitution says that it’s needed, and so, in accordance with the Constitution, the states pass laws covering the details. As to Chesebro’s motivations, my guess is that he wanted to send a big middle finger to all of his “friends” the co-defendents. Remember, it’s all about hate and face-eating. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1116 "2023-08-26T01:46:15Z")
withdrawn ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1117 "2023-08-26T01:48:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > No offense intended, but this sounds a little nutty. If I’m innocent, I’m not pleading guilty to anything. (Which is what accepting a plea bargain comes down to.) Innocent, or guilty, or uncertain because of an uncertain precedent, I want to know how big of a deal the prosecution is offering, and what my lawyer’s best estimate is of my chances of conviction. In this case, I, if in Mr. Floyd’s presumed-innocent shoes, would also want to know how mixed verdicts (common when there are so many defendants and counts) tend to run in Georgia with politician cases. Do the jurors tend to acquit the underlings and only convict the politician, or vice-versa? And there could be another factor in this case. Say there are one or two solid Trumpers that snuck onto the jury. They may give in to arguments of other jurors, when it comes to lesser defendants, but only insist on a mistrial for the big guy. So I think it is very dangerous for Mr. Floyd to go to trial – innocent or guilty or uncertain. And it’s less dangerous for Mr. Trump to go to trial. Their interests differ, so it is very bad that Trump even had the option of paying Floyd’s bills. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1118 "2023-08-26T01:51:39Z")
Then feel free to plead guilty to something you didn’t do. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1119 "2023-08-26T02:06:28Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > The prosecution does not rely solely on the testimony of someone who flipped. They buttress the testimony with corroborating evidence. Best yet if it is evidence that the witness had not known about but their story was consistent with it. Less so if it is evidence that was already shared with the witness. I would expect that in general flipped witnesses have to convince jurors of their credibility. ISTM that the typical dependent, low on funds and scared, _is_ at some risk of coercion and therefore less credible. But yes it is standard operating procedure. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1120 "2023-08-26T02:23:20Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > If the answer is yes, IMHO the jury should ignore that testimony due to it being bought and paid for, in the coin of a lesser sentence, by the government. I’m sure the defence will ASK the Jury to disregard this evidence. They can ASK for a whole lot of silly shit. Does not mean anyone is required to do what they ASK. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=57)