# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/121 "2023-07-11T02:09:33Z")
Currently being reported on MSNBC: The grand jury expected to be presented with evidence to potentially indict Trump will be empaneled tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/122 "2023-07-11T03:31:45Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > The grand jury Which one? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/123 "2023-07-11T03:33:33Z")
The one that is for the subject of this thread: Georgia. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/124 "2023-07-11T07:38:25Z")
I believe the grand jury will determine how perfect his phone call to Raffensperger really was. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/125 "2023-07-11T14:03:00Z")
they are getting ready to have jurors for 2 grand juries in ga. one for the election and one for the other criminal complaints; as crime has not taken a time out in fulton county. [Fulton County grand jury to hear 2020 election case against Trump, allies (fox5atlanta.com)](https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/fulton-county-grand-jury-2020-election-case-against-trump-allies) ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/126 "2023-07-14T21:17:42Z")
[https://wapo.st/46RWQF6](https://wapo.st/46RWQF6) Gift link Apparently refiling their absurd motion because Judge McBurney ignored it, so they went over his head. I’m not sure why he didn’t tell them to pound sand the first time they filed it. > That [motion](https://www.fultonclerk.org/DocumentCenter/View/2046/2023CV382670) has been pending before Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, whom Trump’s attorneys [also sought to have removed](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/03/20/trump-georgia-grand-jury/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5) from the case. They cited his oversight of the special grand jury, which they claim was conducted “under an unconstitutional statute” and “through an illegal and unconstitutional process” that violated Trump’s due process rights. I’m thinking somebody’s panties are in a bunch because the grand jury is supposedly starting to hear evidence in Atlanta. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/127 "2023-07-14T21:45:57Z")
Was this filed under that statute of “no fair, no takebacks”? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/128 "2023-07-15T02:46:40Z")
CMIIW, but the number of votes trump asked for in the infamous phone call was such that he would have “won” by one vote. Counts that close automatically trigger recounts, so how many votes would he have actually needed to prevent recount? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/129 "2023-07-15T03:21:48Z")
I don’t mean to hijack the thread but it seems relevant to ask about the makeup of the Georgia Supreme Court and how will this likely impact their decision. I looked at the individual justices and for the most part there is little information on party affiliation. Half were appointed by the past Gov. Deal who was a D who switched to be an R and the other by the current Gov. Kemp an R. The 9th one was elected in 2018 so I assume R. Weirdly the SCOG seats are filled by election but for various reasons 8 of the current 9 were appointed to the court by the two Governors. FWIW, 4 of the current justices will have to win reelection in 2024 to stay on the Court with the other 5 not up for reelection until 2026 or 2028. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/130 "2023-07-15T15:06:01Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Weirdly the SCOG seats are filled by election but for various reasons 8 of the current 9 were appointed to the court by the two Governors. That’s not uncommon. Judges frequently retire mid term to allow their replacement to be appointed. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/131 "2023-07-17T22:51:23Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Apparently refiling their absurd motion because Judge McBurney ignored it, so they went over his head. I’m not sure why he didn’t tell them to pound sand the first time they filed it. And… has been denied. (Quelle surprise!) ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/132 "2023-07-17T23:09:13Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > And… has been denied. (Quelle surprise!) Has it? Fantastic! I hadn’t seen that news yet. Great to hear that the Georgia Superior Court isn’t completely crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/133 "2023-07-17T23:12:20Z")
I looked for a link (not too hard), but I already heard it reported out on MSNBC. They’re generally a reliable source. I’m happy Trump wasted more of his money on a motion that was mostly characterized as a Hail Mary effort. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/134 "2023-07-17T23:14:33Z")
Angry Twooth Social rant in 5… 4… 3… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/135 "2023-07-17T23:16:41Z")
LOL, I notice they didn’t waste any time over issuing their ruling, either! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/136 "2023-07-18T01:07:17Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > CMIIW, but the number of votes trump asked for in the infamous phone call was such that he would have “won” by one vote. Counts that close automatically trigger recounts, so how many votes would he have actually needed to prevent recount? I guarantee you Loser Donald doesn’t think that far ahead. His proposal to the governor in his perfect phone call basically amounted to “Just lie and say I won by one vote, and everyone will believe you”, because he’s a pathological liar who’s used to lying and getting away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/137 "2023-07-18T01:11:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > His proposal to the governor in his perfect phone call basically amounted to “Just lie and say I won by one vote, and everyone will believe you”, Agreed. He figured it was no big deal for them to “find” just enough votes that donald wins. I’m sure that donald was used to fudging his numbers when doing construction projects, and figured 11,780 votes just amounted to the same sort of rounding error where you usually would have padded your fees. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/138 "2023-07-18T02:07:04Z")
Here’s the link I promised. (Gift link.) > **[Georgia Supreme Court Rejects Trump Effort to Quash Investigation](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/us/georgia-supreme-court-trump-investigation.html?unlocked_article_code=mAfK6P11mWFST_O3aPSRznc9aVIaDJ5YeoWlCmGK_o6-UrexSLe6uS6ZHyYsPefDxz2MAjiP5UtjOd95r1GhkIdoLBsCHd52gp70k1mKx1Xbkp_2p9lDLmRLES1Exs-_7oSvNBAfDVei3bN_GtDRwfPCYKZ8hPn1umBw7yiz74zKytXHVZi5u4M-3tHytPp7lP4rTmkL1TVst2eNJW7cxT5DLyXbbL7ViUTPTwVge5YWgCuVwBVIEmdjqugbn7_C_sYPhF3Qp-ogBCFAcM096uKAne6X0AkeJO0o5kITdBRLG4Or_5PpXB564cJidgDoVMYpxoMkrO_iqzJeGalKdOCaybBmvwgFWgX25gwOjQ&smid=url-share)** > > With indictment decisions imminent, the court refused to scuttle an investigation into whether the former president and his allies interfered in the 2020 election. They sure didn’t waste any time! ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/139 "2023-07-18T02:11:33Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Here’s the link I promised. > > (Gift link.) Thanks!! It does make me wonder why the original judge never ruled on the same motion they filed back in March. Thought it was too stupid to dignify with a response, maybe? I get that. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/140 "2023-07-18T02:30:37Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > It does make me wonder why the original judge never ruled on the same motion they filed back in March. The question appears to be answered in the ruling, which @EddyTeddyFreddy kindly linked to in this thread: > [@A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/896): > > [Ruling ruling ruling!](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23879263-georgia-supreme-court-opinion-trump-v-willis-et-al) Based on a quick read-through, it looks like Trump jumped the gun on Judge McBurney and filed his “appeal” before there was a ruling by Judge McBurney. The Petition for Writ of Mandamus was denied because the Georgia Supreme Court believed it was premature and not properly before them. Moreover, they pointed out that even if the Petition had been properly filed, Trump’s remedies _still_ would not include a basis to quash the proceedings. Boom! (As they say.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=8)