# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 89
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1761 "2023-10-19T15:06:16Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > must testify truthfully This is obviously critical, and I’m wondering exactly how it works. Will the prosecutor already have the testimony that she has pledged to provide in writing prior to agreeing to the plea deal, so that this condition is easy to enforce? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1762 "2023-10-19T15:11:22Z")
Dunno. Good question. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1763 "2023-10-19T15:15:50Z")
i’m sure prosecutors have more than just “they said” for proof. so many of the people in this conspiracy are proven not to tell the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1764 "2023-10-19T15:19:19Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > If she tells a story about how drinking the Trump Kool-Aid led her down a road of bad decisions and generally kooky behavior, that might actually get some of the other cult members questioning their own behavior over the last several years. They can all blame it on some sort of mass hysteria rather than a personal lack of critical thinking. From the party of personal responsibility? > [@Riemann](#): > > This is obviously critical, and I’m wondering exactly how it works. Will the prosecutor already have the testimony that she has pledged to provide in writing prior to agreeing to the plea deal, so that this condition is easy to enforce? On _Law & Order_, McCoy would hold off on the sentencing until after the defendant had upheld their end of a plea deal. That still gives the prosecution leverage to compel their testimony. The real world may vary, but the idea is sound. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1765 "2023-10-19T15:21:50Z")
I’d like us all _not_ to lose sight of the putative etiology of ~~Syd Barrett~~ Sid Powell’s take on the rigged voting machines: > [@](#): > > _““Who am I? And how do I know all of this?.. I’ve had the strangest dreams since I was a little girl,” the woman wrote in the email shared by Powell with Bartiromo and Dobbs. “I was internally decapitated, and yet, I live.””_ > . > _“This all appeared in the same memo that claimed Dominion’s software flipped votes from Trump to Biden, and tied the election company to a conspiracy involving Democrats Nancy Pelosi, then the House speaker, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein.”_ As a condition of her plea agreement, they should require that she tell us when JFK, Jr. will return, and if he’ll rekindle “George” magazine when he does. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1766 "2023-10-19T15:28:32Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Well, if you plead in Georgia, might as well plead in D C. She’s not charged in DC. Only the Donald is currently charged. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1767 "2023-10-19T15:29:40Z")
Would it be smart for the defense, at this point, to use her crazy dreams etc against her credibility as a witness? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1768 "2023-10-19T15:33:38Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > On _Law & Order_, McCoy would hold off on the sentencing until after the defendant had upheld their end of a plea deal. That still gives the prosecution leverage to compel their testimony. Theoretically. But the problem is that they are ready to try her now with Cheseboro. If she just vaguely promises to testify truthfully and then reneges, they have to _prove_ that she was untruthful, and she has probably bought herself years of delay and they have to devote a huge amount of resources to trying her again separately. I would hope they have something much more concrete - that if her testimony differs from something that they already have in writing, that triggers a harsher sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1769 "2023-10-19T15:34:47Z")
This bit from the CNN article may indicate why the last-minute change of plea: > [@](#): > > Fulton County Judge McAfee had repeatedly denied Powell’s motions to get the case tossed or at least chip away at some of the most serious accusations, including the alleged RICO violation. > > His most recent ruling came Wednesday night, when he rejected Powell’s arguments that the indictment violated her First Amendment rights. Sounds like the Georgia DA’s drafting of the charges was rock solid; nothing for Powell’s lawyers to challenge. [https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/sidney-powell-fulton-county-georgia-2020-election-subversion/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/sidney-powell-fulton-county-georgia-2020-election-subversion/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1770 "2023-10-19T15:37:32Z")
Those dreams weren’t Powell’s: > **[The 'wackadoodle' foundation of Fox News' election-fraud claims](https://www.npr.org/2023/02/20/1158223099/fox-news-dominion-wackadoodle-election-fraud-claim)** > > A woman who put forth election-fraud claims that even she described as "pretty wackadoodle" was a source for baseless claims aired by Fox News in 2020. The network is now being sued for defamation. [probably enough on that subject for this thread] ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1771 "2023-10-19T15:43:57Z")
Did she get one year of probation, or six years of probation? I’m seeing both numbers in different places. Either way, if she took a first offenders deal in Georgia she’ll have all charges dropped after she successfully completes her probation period. The arrest will still be on her record, but no conviction, not even the plea deal, will be. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1772 "2023-10-19T15:47:01Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Did she get one year of probation, or six years of probation? I’m seeing both numbers in different places. The article I linked to says that Georgia prosecutors have _recommended_ six years of probation. > Fulton County prosecutors are recommending a sentence of six years probation. Powell will also be required to testify at future trials, write an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia, pay nearly $9,000 in restitution and fines and turn over documents. I don’t see anything saying definitively that those are the actual terms of the plea deal though, I’m not sure if that’s public yet. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1773 "2023-10-19T16:14:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Smacken the Kracken! [The Smakken](https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20181228)? The _really_ interesting thing will be how all the _other_ indictees react to this news. A rush to cut deals themselves? Or a united claim that actually everything was her fault? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1774 "2023-10-19T16:15:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > A rush to cut deals themselves? Or a united claim that actually everything was her fault? … which won’t fly, in the end. Too much evidence to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1775 "2023-10-19T16:15:38Z")
Doesn’t this make two flipped defendants in Georgia? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1776 "2023-10-19T16:16:59Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > … which won’t fly, in the end. Too much evidence to the contrary. When has that ever stopped any of them before? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1777 "2023-10-19T16:18:19Z")
Honestly, they’re hanging their hats on that “just one juror!” hope. And that strategy (if it can be called a strategy) doesn’t usually work out. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1778 "2023-10-19T16:19:57Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Honestly, they’re hanging their hats on that “just one juror!” hope. And that strategy (if it can be called a strategy) doesn’t usually work out Or the “Trump will pardon me” hope. And they don’t understand that he can’t for these State charges. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1779 "2023-10-19T16:21:11Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Doesn’t this make two flipped defendants in Georgia? It does. I can’t remember the name of the other one, but it’s the bail bondsman. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1780 "2023-10-19T16:23:06Z")
ah, that explains the odd thing (s) i heard when they went to the courtroom, she is doing a first offenders thing. it was mentioned quite a few times. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=88) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=90)