# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1861 "2023-10-20T23:20:22Z")
Deep State got to them, no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1862 "2023-10-20T23:23:41Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > Yeah but somebody has to go to jail. There need to be at least a little deterrence that future Powells and Chesbros would want to consider. A slap on the wrist, minor fine and that’s it? Being convicted of a felony is no slap on the writs. And of course, they are waiting for The Big Fish. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1863 "2023-10-20T23:28:17Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Being convicted of a felony is no slap on the writs. Typo, or intentional pun? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1864 "2023-10-20T23:29:08Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Typo, or intentional pun? I wish it was intentional. I claim that my subconscious made the typo. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1865 "2023-10-20T23:50:03Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > Anyone brave enough to go look at how Fox news is spinning this? Mostly it looks like they are not, from what I can tell. There is a story about it, which reads like wire-service boilerplate. It can be located by using site search – i.e., it does not appear when just browsing the site. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1866 "2023-10-21T01:19:03Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > Anyone brave enough to go look at how Fox news is spinning this? What can they say about two longtime Trump allies pleading guilty and promising to testify? I took a shot at it earlier today… they didn’t mention Trump until 25 minutes in and it was a very quick mention……kind of like Trump judge gag order Georgia two guilty pleas…… it took up about 15 seconds. Before that, they did have quite a bit to say about the fact that Joe Biden’s brother once wrote Joe a big check as repayment for a personal loan. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1867 "2023-10-21T02:08:29Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Makes me wonder if that was part of their thinking in the first place. By asking for, and getting, a speedy trial, that forced the DA to get serious with plea negotiations sooner than with their co-defendants whose trials that aren’t until next spring. > [@rocking\_chair](#): > > i reckoned on chesebro and powell thinking the da wouldn’t be ready. i believe the indictments took so long because the da was anticipating speedy trial requests. imminent turned out to be months. That might have been part of it, too. Seems like there are advantages to the defendants who have their trials first. They get the first chance at a plea bargain (which will tend to be more lenient, as we’ve just seen), and the DA may not be as well prepared as in later trials. Of course, had Powell and Chesebro actually gone to trial, the other defendants could have seen the prosecutions case and what witnesses were called. They could then prepare to counter those arguments in their own trials. Is there any other advantage to going late in the process? Although they pled guilty, seems to me that these two defendants were well served by requesting a speedy trial. So why didn’t all the defendants do that? Is there any way that those who have their trials later are more likely to be acquitted, or to get lesser sentences than those who go early? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1868 "2023-10-21T02:13:41Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > So why didn’t all the defendants do that? Is there any way that those who have their trials later are more likely to be acquitted, or to get lesser sentences than those who go early? This one will run beyond the 2024 election, and if Trump is reelected the judicial process will almost certainly come under attack. It is even now, with Georgia Republicans’ efforts to remove DA Willis. A presidential pardon may not be relevant, but hitching their wagon to Trump and betting that the trial just never happens is one strategy. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1869 "2023-10-21T02:38:12Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > A presidential pardon may not be relevant, but hitching their wagon to Trump and betting that the trial just never happens is one strategy. And when you’re apparently not only technically guilty, but GUILTY, you go with whatever you think may work. Especially if you’re afraid some RWNJ will show up at your home and kill you if you talk… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1870 "2023-10-21T07:11:14Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > It is even now, with Georgia Republicans’ efforts to remove DA Willis. I think you misplaced your apostrophe. It was one Georgia Republican’s efforts to remove her. > **[Georgia Republicans suspend senator who wants to impeach DA over Trump...](https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-republicans-suspend-senator-colton-moore-fani-willis-donald-trump-indictment.amp)** > > In his response to the suspension, the Georgia state senator called his colleagues "RINOs" who were "acting like children and throwing me out of the caucus." ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1871 "2023-10-21T15:12:15Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Before that, they did have quite a bit to say about the fact that Joe Biden’s brother once wrote Joe a big check as repayment for a personal loan. I once wrote my brother a big check as repayment for a personal loan. I didn’t know we weren’t supposed to do that. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Although they pled guilty, seems to me that these two defendants were well served by requesting a speedy trial. So why didn’t all the defendants do that? The looming trial date puts pressure on the defendant to accept the deal, but the guys whose trials are still far off could certainly start negotiating now. The DA would be happy to talk, and would probably prefer early pleas. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1872 "2023-10-21T16:55:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I think you misplaced your apostrophe. It was one Georgia Republican’s efforts to remove her. I imagine there are many Georgia Republicans who have been exasperated by Trump’s denigration of their state and by extension his own party members there. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1873 "2023-10-21T17:45:36Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Mostly it looks like they are not, from what I can tell. Probably still working on how to blame it on Biden. ~~Sleepy~~ Sleazy Joe got all those votes so he forced Trump’s best and brightest to come up with… novel ways to get the victory that was so rightfully his. The People mandated it. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1874 "2023-10-21T18:10:16Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I once wrote my brother a big check as repayment for a personal loan. I didn’t know we weren’t supposed to do that. You’re supposed to give 'em the finger and say “So sue me!” like Cheato does. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1875 "2023-10-21T18:32:38Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I once wrote my brother a big check as repayment for a personal loan. I didn’t know we weren’t supposed to do that. Depends. If you’re a Democrat you’re in the soup for sure. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1876 "2023-10-21T18:56:02Z")
Back to Georgia, I wonder if with most of the technical arguments for defense failing on merits (Federal Supremacy, Part of the Job, Following orders, etc etc etc) if we’re going to start instead seeing arguments for “Guilty but with Mitigating Circumstances that mean I shouldn’t be held responsible!” You know, the whole shift the blame game again. I could see a lot of defenses that don’t rise to the (seemingly now torpedoed by the guilty pleas) “relied of advice of counsel” but might sway a Jury: Blame Fox News for saying things they knew (which we have from the prior lawsuits) were false but presented as fact, blame Trump for much of the same (a lesser version of the presumably legal orders defense), and so on. For that matter, I suspect that the next blame game shift to Democrats will be something along the lines of “Well, if you would have just let us have Y (where Y = All prior recounts + 1) recounts we would never have done any of this. By not letting us have Y recounts, which is obviously suspicious, you forced us to take extra-legal actions to reassure ourselves that all had been done properly!” And it was of course Democrats or RINOs (who are really supra-secret Democrats anyway) that blocked Y from ever being reached! This sort of shift blame and deflection of responsibility will likely never end until the people involved are in the ground, regardless of how many people, of whatever level, end up in jail. I think we’re in the post factual world for the foreseeable future. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1877 "2023-10-22T20:45:51Z")
I see the bus is right on schedule. > ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1878 "2023-10-22T21:07:50Z")
I’ll not comment here about his idiotic spelling (except to call it idiotic, I guess) and instead ask: Since when does Trump think fascism is a bad thing? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1879 "2023-10-22T21:09:32Z")
When the “fascist” government is aiming at him, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1880 "2023-10-22T22:28:57Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Since when does Trump think fascism is a bad thing? It’s like when he calls the governor of Florida “Ron De Sanctimonious”. it doesn’t matter what the word means, he just knows that it sounds bad and he can use it to attack people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=95)