# What happens if Trump is indicted in Georgia? (Indicted on August 14, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928 "2023-02-17T03:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1921 "2023-11-01T03:20:28Z")
Nah, DavidNRockies’ linked article says: > [@](#): > > Prosecutors say Hanson called the Fulton County government customer service line twice on Aug. 6, 2023, leaving two voicemails — the first for Labat and the second for Willis. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1922 "2023-11-01T14:29:51Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > We may need a series of edits: > > “What if Trump is convicted in Georgia?” (Update: he has been convicted) > “What if Trump’s appeal is successful in Georgia?” (Update: it was not successful) > “What if Trump has to serve prison time in Georgia?” (Update: he is serving prison time in Georgia) Hopefully a couple more: “What if T\*\*\*p dies in prison in Georgia?” (Update: he has died in prison in Georgia) “What if nobody claims his body?” (not updated) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1923 "2023-11-01T14:51:14Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > “What if T\*\*\*p dies in prison in Georgia?” (Update: he has died in prison in Georgia) > “What if nobody claims his body?” (not updated) Would zombie Trump be eligible for president? (Update: Trump has risen on the third day) I’m a bit late for Halloween horror. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1924 "2023-11-02T04:54:18Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > (Update: Trump has risen on the third day) Probably only in the way dough rises; bloating. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1925 "2023-11-02T06:44:54Z")
That’s not gonna smell nice. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1926 "2023-11-02T10:57:50Z")
That’s why everyone has tears in their eyes when they talk to him. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1927 "2023-11-02T13:55:50Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > (Update: Trump has risen on the third day) He keeps rising to the surface, until somebody flushes ten or fifteen times to get rid of him. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1928 "2023-11-02T17:08:23Z")
Legal Eagle dropped a video about the consequences of Trump’s co conspirators pleading guilty in the Georgia case: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/EKqQYBF27js/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump's Friends\* Are All Pleading Guilty") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKqQYBF27js) As usual it’s both entertaining and informative. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1929 "2023-11-02T17:25:30Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Riemann](#): > > > > (Update: Trump has risen on the third day) > > Probably only in the way dough rises; bloating. If he has sufficiently risen, does that mean we should put him in the, uh, …_nevermind_. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1930 "2023-11-02T17:42:28Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > If he has sufficiently risen, does that mean we should … … put a fork in him to test if he’s done? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1931 "2023-11-02T18:03:06Z")
Moderating: Ok, time to drop the riffing off the “bloated” joke. Let’s get back on topic now, please. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1932 "2023-11-03T22:46:15Z")
Gift link > **[A novel defense in Trump’s Georgia case: The 2020 election really was stolen](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/03/trump-codefendant-georgia-election-case/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjk4OTg0MDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzAwMzY5OTk5LCJpYXQiOjE2OTg5ODQwMDAsImp0aSI6ImNkMjNkMWRmLWU4NTgtNDRmZC1iZjM1LTY5YWNmMjcwYzMyOSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb25hbC1zZWN1cml0eS8yMDIzLzExLzAzL3RydW1wLWNvZGVmZW5kYW50LWdlb3JnaWEtZWxlY3Rpb24tY2FzZS8ifQ.z1cbnvpzSu5mukVHRAgVcBRYB54mA0YEyam3NH_oJEE&itid=gfta)** > > A novel defense is emerging from two of Trump’s remaining 14 co-defendants in a case alleging a vast conspiracy to steal the 2020 election. > Lawyers for one of those defendants, [Harrison Floyd](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/23/willie-floyd-fulton-maryland-fbi-arrest/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10), appeared in court Friday morning to argue that their client is entitled to thousands of pages of election records from Fulton County and the Georgia secretary of state. > Floyd’s lawyers argued, they must be allowed access to some of the same material for which election conspiracy theorists have been clamoring for years: cast-vote records from voting machines, ballot reports, every envelope received with absentee ballots, every absentee ballot application and much more. > He said examining the election records is necessary to either prove that Floyd is innocent, because the election was indeed stolen — or to prove the election was not stolen and Floyd is innocent under a “mistake of fact” defense. I hope the judge declines to let this go any farther. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1933 "2023-11-03T22:54:46Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > I hope the judge declines to let this go any farther. You don’t get to make up a bat shit crazy theory, and then demand evidence to see if your theory was correct or not. That’s like alleging that somebody is a child molester, then demanding access to all of their private correspondence to see if they’ve written a confession. If one of these people wishes to advance a defense that they had a good faith basis to believe the elections were stolen, then it’s incumbent upon them to present whatever evidence _they_ have to demonstrate why they had that good faith basis. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1934 "2023-11-03T22:54:59Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > I hope the judge declines to let this go any farther. As a _reductio ad absurdum_, I cannot claim without _any evidence whatsoever_ that I murdered somebody only because my mind was controlled by a secret DARPA project, and demand access to all Defense Department documentation that I deem necessary to prove this. I think this argument should be dismissed on a similar basis - that there is not a jot of evidence to support the claim that the election was stolen despite massive MAGA resources dedicated to proving it and dozens of court cases. ETA: pretty much ninjaed by @Moriarty , but I think their response frames it more correctly. What matters is whether the defendant _had_ evidence to support their beliefs when they committed the alleged crime. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1935 "2023-11-04T15:16:30Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > **A novel defense in Trump’s Georgia case: The 2020 election really was stolen** From the linked article: > A Trump supporter indicted last week in Fulton County, Ga., for allegedly harassing an election worker was charged earlier this year with attacking an FBI agent working on the Justice Department’s parallel investigation of efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. Joe Biden could have led a platoon of stormtroopers to polling places and personally torn up every Trump ballot before they could be tallied, and it would have absolutely no bearing on whether or not Harrison Floyd violated the law by harassing an election worker and assaulting an FBI agent. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1936 "2023-11-04T17:24:18Z")
They were desperately hoping that nobody would notice that bit. ETA: to paraphrase an analogy that’s been getting around: Even if you believe the bank owes you money … even if your belief is _sincere …_ even if you’re actually right – the bank _does_ owe you money … you may not commit a crime to get that money back. This isn’t about “free speech.” It isn’t about what the Defendants “thought” or “believed.” It s about what they _did._ ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1937 "2023-11-04T18:25:08Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Even if you believe the bank owes you money … even if your belief is _sincere …_ even if you’re actually right – the bank _does_ owe you money … you may not commit a crime to get that money back. 100%. I’ve said this a number of times. And even after the deep shit that Sidney Powell has gotten herself into, she is still trying to sell the ‘election was stolen lie’. These people are idiots. Through and through. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1938 "2023-11-04T19:38:55Z")
Some are idiots. Some are evil. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1939 "2023-11-04T19:46:21Z")
Some have consumed so much high-test propaganda for so long they are functionally, if not diagnostically, insane. Once understanding cause vs effect and reality vs fantasy slips away from somebody, what happens next is functionally indistinguishable from true mental illness. And, sadly, is probably almost equally untreatable once the propaganda drug is withdrawn. As if we had a way to induce that withdrawal. Which we do not and probably cannot have. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928/1940 "2023-11-04T22:19:40Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Even if you believe the bank owes you money … even if your belief is _sincere …_ even if you’re actually right – the bank _does_ owe you money … you may not commit a crime to get that money back. I don’t think it has anything to do with actually using this a a legal defense. It’s a means to tie things up, slow things down, confuse the rubes, and to have _something_ to point to while whining that they aren’t being treated fairly. _“Whaaa! They refused to deliver to me every single ballot and the names, addresses, and social security numbers of the people who **supposedly** cast those ballots. They aren’t letting me defend myself! I don’t care if it will take months and millions of dollars and thousands of man hours and will completely disregard election integrity and security! It’s my right! What are they trying to hide, huh?”_ > McAfee at times appeared skeptical of the arguments made by Floyd’s attorney, at one point telling him “the amount of personal information” that might be contained in the material was a “big red flag” for him. > > Jackson Sharman, an attorney for Raffensperger’s office, said it could take five to six months to produce the material. Chad Alexis, a lawyer for the Fulton County clerk, said it could take even longer given that the request for information from Fulton was even broader. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-if-trump-is-indicted-in-georgia-indicted-on-august-14-2023/979928.md?page=98)