# What happens to the QAnon movement now-- do they mutate & move the goalposts, or die out? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211 "2021-01-22T13:55:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/81 "2021-01-26T17:11:37Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > > > It’s pretty obvious even to the true believers that QAnon was being used as tool by political conservatives > > Wait… Are you saying there’s a conspiracy to use conspiracy theorists to spread disinformation through conspiracy theories? I’m not sure it’s a conspiracy when it’s right out in the open for all to see. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/82 "2021-01-26T17:13:04Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I’m not sure it’s a conspiracy when it’s right out in the open for all to see. That’s the beauty of it! By having it out in the open, it proves to the conspiracy theorists that there’s no conspiracy! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/83 "2021-01-26T18:05:20Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Said another way, it’s conspiracy theories all the way down. _All_ the way down. Deep, _deep_ , _ **deep** _ into the very center of the Earth. All the way into Agartha where the lizard people from Atlantis send out their thought beams? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/84 "2021-01-26T20:03:19Z")
There’s an old joke: Q: How do you keep (members of X group) out of the country club? A: Let one in, he’ll do it for you. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/85 "2021-01-26T20:20:10Z")
I read a comment by a Trumper today who claimed - in complete and utter seriousness - that Trump had won 75 percent of the popular vote. You really cannot reason with such folks. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/86 "2021-01-26T20:43:46Z")
I’m pretty sure I read Trump himself saying that at some point, and we still did eventually get him out of office, so maybe there’s still hope to reach them. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/87 "2021-01-26T20:49:40Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I read a comment by a Trumper today who claimed - in complete and utter seriousness - that Trump had won 75 percent of the popular vote. > > You really cannot reason with such folks. You have to subtract California. Those votes are all from illegal immigrants. Don’t you know California used to be **in** Mexico! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/88 "2021-01-26T21:48:45Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > I’ve seen March 4th referenced in a few places, but also that Trump was a deep-state plant–he used to be a Democrat! [Like I’ve always said](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/june-5-2020-trump-says-this-is-a-great-day-for-george-floyd/855106/19), when right-wing media start remembering and mentioning that Trump was a longtime Democrat, that’s when they’ll be through with him. If the Trumpublican right-wing ever manages to face up to Trump’s malfeasance and corruption and lying to any non-negligible extent, they’ll do it by pretending he was a Democratic President. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/89 "2021-01-26T21:55:33Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > If the Trumpublican right-wing ever manages to face up to Trump’s malfeasance and corruption and lying to any non-negligible extent, they’ll do it by pretending he was a Democratic President _Democrat_ President. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/90 "2021-01-26T21:55:35Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I read a comment by a Trumper today who claimed - in complete and utter seriousness - that Trump had won 75 percent of the popular vote. > > You really cannot reason with such folks. Wow! Yeah, no reasoning there. There’s a reason RWs love the color-coded red/blue map of who carried which state. If you just look at the total amount of red and blue, and take the “disputed” states and paint them red too, it really _is_ about 75% red. Maybe more. Which says a lot about how much dirt where gets to vote in our elections. But not much about how many people where. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/91 "2021-01-26T22:01:43Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Deep, _deep_ , _ **deep** _ into the very center of the Earth. [insert sarcastic flat earth comment here] ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/92 "2021-01-26T22:01:44Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > > [@Kimstu](#): > > > > If the Trumpublican right-wing ever manages to face up to Trump’s malfeasance and corruption and lying to any non-negligible extent, they’ll do it by pretending he was a Democratic President > > _Democrat_ President. Yup. I may have to offer a cash prize for the first sighting of a published reference in conservative media to “former Democrat President Donald Trump”. (That would even be factually accurate, at least by conservative standards, since they could claim that they’re describing President Donald Trump as a “former Democrat”.) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/93 "2021-01-28T15:23:03Z")
Related: “Prophets” are having a bad time of it following Trump’s defeat. > **[Charismatics are at war with each other over failed prophecies of Trump victory](https://religionunplugged.com/news/2021/1/12/charismatics-are-at-war-with-each-other-over-failed-prophecies-of-trump-victory?fbclid=IwAR3ARpZzaQIJzOuGZvbCy43Kr59xAoqIrTE2rdF8vVPpQ51vUcPeo2OwJ8U)** > > A day of reckoning has come for modern-day “prophets” in the Pentecostal/charismatic movement who falsely foretold a victory for President Trump in 2020. Privately and on social media, these prophets and their thousands of followers are slugging it... ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/94 "2021-01-28T16:19:52Z")
I guess we’ll have to wait a while for Nehemiah Scudder. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/95 "2021-01-28T16:23:55Z")
Seems like a goofy way of saying “All for one, and one for all” without actually infringing on Alexandre Dumas. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/96 "2021-01-28T17:42:20Z")
After the calf gets melted down, the worshippers always start squabbling over the gold. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/97 "2021-01-28T20:49:27Z")
If I need to know about [this](https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3gedm/marjorie-taylor-greene-believes-in-frazzledrip-qanons-wildest-conspiracy-theory), then so do you. Apparently, we have members of the Republican party who believe that Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin raped a little girl, and then removed her face while she was still alive, with the goal of taking turns wearing said face in order to scare her (how that would be appreciably more frightening than having your face filleted off is not clear) in order to increase the levels of certain blood chemicals in order to subsequently eat her. I’m wistful about how naive I was when I thought Michelle Bachmann was as crazy as Republicans would be willing to go. So, yeah, I’m pretty sure this "movement’ is not going to die out or act rationally in any way. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/98 "2021-01-28T21:15:51Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > If I need to know about [this](https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3gedm/marjorie-taylor-greene-believes-in-frazzledrip-qanons-wildest-conspiracy-theory), then so do you. Hahaha… Oh Marjorie Taylor Greene, you wonderful batshit imbecile. She believes that school shootings are staged events designed to force gun restrictions using fake victims, and has tweeted about this fact (so it’s in the public record) and now she’s been appointed to the House Education and Labor Committee. Because if anyone should have a say in how the country makes decisions about your children, it’s a delusional nitwit who has mocked children murdered in schools. Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the Republican Party. God Bless America. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/99 "2021-01-28T21:19:23Z")
And that [lasers beams from space](https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/marjorie-taylor-greene-penned-conspiracy-theory-laser-beam-space-started-deadly-2018) are responsible for California wildfires. We can both sides this all day, and I’m sure that there is a Democratic equivalent of this. But, that equivalent person is in a mental institution and not Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211/100 "2021-01-28T21:23:30Z")
Laser beam from space? That’s PREPOSTEROUS! The wildfires were caused by weaponised mutant flying sharks that had lasers on their heads. It’s just common sense! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-to-the-qanon-movement-now-do-they-mutate-move-the-goalposts-or-die-out/931211.md?page=6)