# What happens when the UN is united again? An inevitable occurance.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 11, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652 "2003-03-11T20:39:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SpeyFly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@SpeyFly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpeyFly)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652/21 "2003-03-12T20:33:17Z")

</div>

Phlosphr, while my choice of the word alliance might be a little strong I would think that with what is going on regarding US foreign policy I am sure that they are talking abut who is the greater threat to world stability. I will go farther to say that the warheads that China and Russia possess, many have been redirected away from each other and more toward a bigger perceived threat.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Saen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Saen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saen)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652/22 "2003-03-12T21:03:01Z")

</div>

> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by SpeyFly \*  
> \*\* I will go farther to say that the warheads that China and Russia possess, many have been redirected away from each other and more toward a bigger perceived threat. \*\*

:eek:  
You have got to be kidding me. You are saying that somehow the administration has somehow made China and Russia strategically rethink their nuclear threats and actively retargetted their missiles because of the percieved threat? that has got to be the most erronious “cowboy” rhetoric I have heard, even from the most anti-American hack.

Don’'t you thin that China and rssia already have most of thier missiles pointed towards us? In the case of China they probably already have everything they can hit us with faced this way. To say that the Bush admin is exacerbating a nuclear scenario is only dreamed up in the most direst of fantasies.

Bush didn’t make up the nuclear policy we have today. We have always said that we would use nukes if WMD where used against us. Nothing has changed.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SpeyFly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@SpeyFly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpeyFly)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652/23 "2003-03-12T21:29:03Z")

</div>

Saen, you have not been paying attention. Here is a clip and a link that will get you up to speed. There is much more if you choose to do your homework.  
â€œA classified document signed by President Bush specifically allows for the use of nuclear weapons in response to biological or chemical attacks, apparently changing a decades-old U.S. policy of deliberate ambiguity, it was learned by The Washington Times.â€  
[http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030131-27320419.htm](http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030131-27320419.htm)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SpeyFly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@SpeyFly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpeyFly)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652/24 "2003-03-12T21:39:22Z")

</div>

OOP’S Sorry Saen, misread your thread.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652/25 "2003-03-13T02:01:27Z")

</div>

> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by SpeyFly \*  
> **[E]con 101 goes both ways and the US is just as dependent on imports and exports as anyone regarding global trade and trade debit.**

i’m not so sure about “just” as dependent. We are in a better economic position than any other invididual country, in terms of both our capital structure and our natural resources. (Other countries may have an individual natural resource we dont , but are dependent on trade to realize its worth.)

IMHO, if an _individual_ country were to consider not to trade with us, they would decide against it, since they would be hurt more than us. However, collectively, if they spread out the hurt, we would be the country affected the worst.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-happens-when-the-un-is-united-again-an-inevitable-occurance/160652.md?page=1)
