# What has the Republican party accomplished?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 5, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000 "2016-03-05T15:02:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/41 "2016-03-06T18:20:57Z")

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Well, there’s repealing Obamacare, for one.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/42 "2016-03-06T19:01:19Z")

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Passed the Student Success Act. It brings local control back to the states. The federal government should stay out of education.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/43 "2016-03-06T19:07:55Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> Passed the Student Success Act. It brings local control back to the states. The federal government should stay out of education.

Don’t you wonder why the GOP hates education?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/44 "2016-03-06T19:37:39Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> The federal government should stay out of education.

No. The federal government absolutely should set standards for education. Otherwise you’ll wind up with people in Kansas or someplace believing that a god created the Earth, and that evolution doesn’t happen, while other kids are learning about science, broadening their horizons, and being prepared to live in the world.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Don’t you wonder why the GOP hates education?

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/45 "2016-03-06T19:53:08Z")

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They secured careers for Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and John Oliver.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/46 "2016-03-06T20:47:38Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> No. The federal government absolutely should set standards for education. Otherwise you’ll wind up with people in Kansas or someplace **believing that a god created the Earth** , and that evolution doesn’t happen, while other kids are learning about science, broadening their horizons, and being prepared to live in the world.
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> Exactly.

This is why some Christians don’t trust progressives. No progressive should enter any Christian church with that rhetoric.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/47 "2016-03-06T20:49:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Don’t you wonder why the GOP hates education?

I don’t think the GOP hates education. It’s why does education have to be monitored by the federal government. Education, health, should be to the states, in my opinion. Those aren’t values. Socially, the government probably shouldn’t be involved in the social issues, but it degrades a nation overall.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/48 "2016-03-06T20:56:16Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> I don’t think the GOP hates education. It’s \*\*why does education have to be monitored by the federal government. \*\*Education, health, should be to the states, in my opinion. Those aren’t values. Socially, the government probably shouldn’t be involved in the social issues, but it degrades a nation overall.

In case you haven’t noticed, some states want to teach intelligent design/creationism as being as valid as evolution.

Texas controls most of the textbooks _used across the nation._

Without minimum standards, some students won’t be ready to move on to college.

Would you like to graduate high school and find out your education is inadequate for the college you wish to attend in another state?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/49 "2016-03-06T20:58:41Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> This is why some Christians don’t trust progressives. No progressive should enter any Christian church with that rhetoric.

Some Christians are delusional persons who put bronze age myths above actual observed science.

It’s a fact that the world doesn’t have a stone dome above it holding water back. It’s a fact that there was never a global flood. It’s a fact that dinosaurs existed many millions of years ago, before man.

Facts. If some shitty flyover state wants to brainwash its kids in public school into believing nonsense myths crafted by ignorant men thousands of years ago, the federal government has a duty to keep them from doing that.

Shitty parents who want to brainwash their kids have access to homeschooling and/or private schools.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/50 "2016-03-06T20:59:09Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> In case you haven’t noticed, some states want to teach intelligent design/creationism as being as valid as evolution.
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> Texas controls most of the textbooks _used across the nation._
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> Without minimum standards, some students won’t be ready to move on to college.
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> Would you like to graduate high school and find out your education is inadequate for the college you wish to attend in another state?

No, but why does government have to be involved? Why?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/51 "2016-03-06T21:01:21Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> No, but why does government have to be involved? Why?

Because the states can’t be trusted.  
Because it’s better to have uniform education for the whole country.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/52 "2016-03-06T21:01:54Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> This is why some Christians don’t trust progressives. No progressive should enter any Christian church with that rhetoric.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> In case you haven’t noticed, some states want to teach intelligent design/creationism as being as valid as evolution.

That’s the point I was trying to make.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Would you like to graduate high school and find out your education is inadequate for the college you wish to attend in another state?

Personal responsibility. It is incumbent upon the students to research their schools from Kindergarten through high school, and to discover the requirements for admission into the college they will wish to attend in a dozen years, and to convince their parents to relocate to another state if necessary. If they graduate from high school in a state that teaches myths over science, and then are unprepared to attend a university in a state that actually educates students, then it’s their own fault.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/53 "2016-03-06T21:13:01Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Because the states can’t be trusted.

And the states are in it because the localities can’t be trusted to do it. And the localities are in it because the families can’t be trusted to do it.

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> Because it’s better to have uniform education for the whole country.

And it’s more efficient to have the economies of scale that national, enforced standards permit.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/54 "2016-03-06T21:16:11Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And the states are in it because the localities can’t be trusted to do it. And the localities are in it because the families can’t be trusted to do it.
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> And it’s more efficient to have the economies of scale that national, enforced standards permit.

I think education should be left to the states in certain aspects. You cannot have standards for the nation. Period. You just want a large government.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/55 "2016-03-06T21:17:56Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Because the states can’t be trusted.  
> Because it’s better to have uniform education for the whole country.

Some states are better than the federal government. Some are worse. You want uniformity, not better.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/56 "2016-03-06T21:21:10Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> You cannot have standards for the nation.

Sure, you can. Sometimes you have to, if the local and state governments have demonstrated histories of stupidity and/or corruption.

Otherwise, you’ll eventually end up with refugees from Kansas claiming asylum at Columbia, saying that if they return home they’ll be persecuted because of their intelligence.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/57 "2016-03-06T21:21:56Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Don’t you wonder why the GOP hates education?

Rarely do they ask, “Is our children learning?”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/58 "2016-03-06T21:26:44Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> I think education should be left to the states in certain aspects. You cannot have standards for the nation. Period. You just want a large government.

You don’t think it’s important for kids to learn critical thinking? Civics? Differences between the many world governments? How about reading comprehension? Spelling and grammar? Algebra? Where do you draw the line?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/59 "2016-03-06T21:27:36Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Some states are better than the federal government. Some are worse. You want uniformity, not better.

Uniformity as in a minimum level. States should be free to do better.

And if some are worse, do you really want that to continue?

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-has-the-republican-party-accomplished/748000/60 "2016-03-06T21:28:56Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> I think education should be left to the states in certain aspects.\*\* You cannot have standards for the nation.\*\* Period. You just want a large government.

Why not?

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