# What have you got to hide, Condie Rice? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 23, 2003, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606 "2003-12-23T05:05:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/81 "2003-12-25T13:50:28Z")
Oh…and do y’all recall the story about Condi calling Willie Brown and warning him not to fly the week of the attacks? > [@](#): > > On May 17, 2002, Pacifica Radio reported that Rice was the source of the call to Brown. See side bar: [www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush\_knew2.html](http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush_knew2.html) > > So in case you missed it: > THE ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY AFFAIRS CONDOLEEZZA RICE CALLED A FRIEND THE DAY BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11TH AND TOLD HIM TO STAY OUT OF THE AIR THAT WEEK [http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1000](http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1000) ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/82 "2003-12-25T14:11:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > **Oh…and do y’all recall the story about Condi calling Willie Brown and warning him not to fly the week of the attacks?** No, no-one recalls it and no-one should be expected to recall it either. Your source is _David Irving_ for fuck sake. ---
**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/83 "2003-12-25T14:15:48Z")
And the CIA has been known to operate domestically in contravention of their charter. MK Ultra and Operation CHAOS being among their better known adventures. ---
**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/84 "2003-12-25T14:36:46Z")
Desmo, what is the time time limit? Can you cite the other post-names I’ve had over the last 3 years? I didn’t think so. You’ve been punk’d. But, really, how many posts do I need to get your eminent respect? I’ve been helping to debunk clods like you for years Reeder, if you can show me where the FBI operates outside the borders of the US, I’d be appreciative. Show me where the Federal Government is lying to me, and I’ll gladly vote for Dean, even though he likes to hire entertainers that spew the word ‘nigger’. I didn’t advocate the word, just wondering why he didn’t denounce it at his own fund-raiser. I’m such a bad Republican. VOTE LINCOLN! ---
**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/85 "2003-12-25T14:58:25Z")
The FBI is quite open about at least some of their foreign operations. Terrorist attacks in Bali and Jakarta, the USS Cole in Yemen and Operation Desert Storm to name just four. I also recall a joint task force operating in the UK with Scotland Yard. A Google search would turn up thousands more instances to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/86 "2003-12-25T15:06:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SeekingTruth \* > \*\*Snip… > > Reeder, if you can show me where the FBI operates outside the borders of the US, I’d be appreciative. Show me where the Federal Government is lying to me, and I’ll gladly vote for Dean, even though he likes to hire entertainers that spew the word ‘nigger’. > > snip…\*\* > [@](#): > > The foreign counterintelligence mission of the FBI is to collect, analyze, and use information to identify and neutralize the activities of foreign powers and their agents that adversely affect national security. The Bureau also conducts and/or supervises espionage investigations in U.S. diplomatic establishments abroad and investigates worldwide espionage activity directed against the United States that involves non-military U.S. citizens [http://www.totse.com/en/politics/foreign\_military\_intelligence\_agencies/3fbipri.html](http://www.totse.com/en/politics/foreign_military_intelligence_agencies/3fbipri.html) > [@](#): > > A congressional mandate in 1994 enabled the FBI to help deal with this threat by expanding its international presence. New FBI offices were opened in 23 countries. A total of 129 FBI agents were now assigned to the FBI’s foreign posts with the purpose of working with foreign intelligence and law enforcement offices on issues of counterterrorism and international crime. > **[CIA-FBI Cooperation -- Some Recent History](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/cia-fbi-cooperation-some-recent-history/)** > > In the 1990s, attempts were made to revamp America's intelligence gathering and law enforcement agencies so that they could better respond to the threat posed by post-Cold War enemies such as Al Qaeda. The reformers, however, had to fight a... Need more? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/87 "2003-12-25T15:15:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SeekingTruth \* > if you can show me where the FBI operates outside the borders of the US, I’d be appreciative. Here’s a few cases. They’re not hard to find. [FBI to resume Cole probe in Yemen](http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/08/31/fbi.cole/) [How the FBI unraveled the Africa embassy bombings](http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/terror/articles/23terr_981123.htm) [FBI Facing Serious Challenfes in Iraq](http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/11/fbi.iraq.bombings.ap/) ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/88 "2003-12-25T15:58:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Squink \* > \*\*How many examples of Condi’s ignorance will it take before you begin to think that she might be having trouble doing her job? \*\* One, for starters. From your cite: “the White House ignored warnings that the uranium claim was unreliable before Bush made the assertion in his State of the Union address in January.” So the CIA won’t vouch for the veracity of the claim. But on the other hand they’re the ones who have assessed that Iraq is restarting its nuke program. It was the British gov’t saying that Saddam is looking for uranium in Africa, and they stand behind that. So what’s Rice actually “ignorant” of here. ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/89 "2003-12-25T16:02:50Z")
**SeekingTruth** , the punk, has been debunked. What a nice thing to read on Christmas morning! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2003, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/90 "2003-12-25T18:09:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tee \* > So what’s Rice actually “ignorant” of here. The CIA’s reservations about the AFRICAN URANIUM claim. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/91 "2003-12-26T01:47:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SeekingTruth \* > **Desmo, what is the time time limit? Can you cite the other post-names I’ve had over the last 3 years? I didn’t think so. You’ve been punk’d. But, really, how many posts do I need to get your eminent respect? I’ve been helping to debunk clods like you for years** I’d be guessing that your other post-names include ones like **King Nifty** , **Uekte** and **Cleverman**. How was that? Close? ---
**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/92 "2003-12-26T07:37:35Z")
Not even close on the guesses, Desmo. But you and Squink have given valid evidence about the FBI. I retract any and all statements regarding such. _slinks away to flog himself_ ---
**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/93 "2003-12-26T07:45:37Z")
A declaration of the your intention to go away masturbate is not much of a mea culpa. We already _knew_ you were going to do _that_. Surely you could be a little more gracious in defeat? ---
**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/94 "2003-12-26T07:48:00Z")
was that directed at me Gest? ---
**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/95 "2003-12-26T08:30:21Z")
Yes. Did you go and have that flog? ---
**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/96 "2003-12-26T08:37:59Z")
Well, first it wasn’t a mea culpa. Look up the term and show me where I said it was. Second, please, please, please tell me where the masturbation came from. Flogging is being whipped. Third, I can’t do it, as everyone should know, because I lost your sister’s nude pic. Care to keep this going? ---
**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/97 "2003-12-26T09:05:27Z")
Granted, you never said it was a mea culpa but one was called for. As for my sister; I’m at a lost for words. I’m estranged from my older sister. She hasn’t been in my life since I was two hence you’re quip about her raises not even an emotional tickle. My younger half-sister (could you have meant my _half_-sister?) died of a non-hodgkin’s lymphoma as a result of Epstein-Barr 13 months ago. But I’m a callous bastard when required so… nope, not a tickle there either. Why don’t you go have that flog now eh? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/98 "2003-12-26T09:12:54Z")
**Gest** , I don’t get where you’re coming from. He wrote: > [@](#): > > But you and Squink have given valid evidence about the FBI. I retract any and all statements regarding such. What more would you want?? ---
**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/99 "2003-12-26T09:20:23Z")
> [@](#): > > What more would you want?? Flagellation (literal), the hessian shirt, the ashes. Or maybe just an “I’m sorry” and the feeling that he’ll stop spouting the same drivel. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2003, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606/100 "2003-12-26T10:44:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SeekingTruth \* > \*\*Not even close on the guesses, Desmo. \*\* OK I give up. What usernames have you used before? Or are you simply saying that you’ve posted on _other_ message boards before? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-have-you-got-to-hide-condie-rice/220606.md?page=6)