# What \*I'd\* like to see from the new Star Trek series.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781 "2016-03-03T01:50:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/21 "2016-03-03T19:01:10Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> But seriously i would like to see our heroes be heroes instead of nearly 30 years of tepid music and our heroes getting their asses kicked.
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> Culminating of course with the movies and Kirk always running and yelling. Getting his ass handed to him and his ship being useless in a fight.
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> Kirk was a superior hand to hand combatant and ship handler. That’s what i want to see. A Kirk or Sisko.

This. I don’t want to see a corrupt Federation - I can see that on the nightly news. The great thing about Kirk was that he both kicked ass and made ethical choices. Though sometimes he got confused, like in Errand of Mercy.  
Let’s have a show where a fundamentally good Captain and Federation have to make really tough choices. Which sometimes come out unsatisfactorily.  
And let’s have a bit of humility, unlike Picard.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/22 "2016-03-03T19:07:20Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Cities?? Harumph! The Federation doesn’t bother with mere cities. Whole planets, or better yet, whole solar systems should be wiped out if the captain gets a hangnail in their vicinity.
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> I think it would be amusing for the next generation of starships to look EXACTLY like the Death Star, except much bigger. Then they can target the local sun and take out the whole system.

They could call them “Starkiller” ships. That would be kewl.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/23 "2016-03-04T00:54:11Z")

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Let’s introduce a Trade Federation that’s working to bring the system down via manipulation of marginal tax rates!!

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/24 "2016-03-04T02:03:42Z")

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I’d like to see things that happen stay having happened. I’d also like to see names like David Gerrold, David Brin, and Michael Swanwick under the ‘Written by’ credit.

I’d also like to see a beautiful Enterprise. The 1701-D was ugly as sin. William Shatner’s and Chris Pine’s starships, on the other hand, are lovely pieces of hardware.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/25 "2016-03-04T14:09:10Z")

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The Federation has always been a capital ship based system. What if they introduced fighters?

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/26 "2016-03-04T14:35:23Z")

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I’m personally hoping for something compelling, but somehow fundamentally different from the time-worn ship cruising the galaxy saving the day by dint of superhumanly competent crewmen. DS9 was a welcome change from that, but the other Trek series and movies have basically revolved around that basic premise.

And, I’ll add that I DON’T want to see something like a police procedural or detective show set in a starbase, nor do I want a hospital drama set in a starbase. Or any of the half-dozen other standard drama show types… set on a starbase.

About the only way I’d be interested in something like that is if they approach it from a very different perspective- like having the super-badass ship roaming the galaxy, but have the show center around a very junior officer, or maybe around an ensemble cast of people who are NOT calling the shots or knowing all the information. No department heads, no senior officers, etc… just _maybe_ have a recurring character who bunks with the main characters be part of the bridge crew or something like that.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/27 "2016-03-04T17:14:50Z")

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They’ve done 3 shows set in the 24th century already. Maybe its time for another time skip like TOS to TNG?

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/28 "2016-03-04T17:33:02Z")

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NCIS:Starfleet

Little House on the Nebula

The Riker Bunch

Psych! - TNG  
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/29 "2016-03-04T17:35:12Z")

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**No motherfucking TIME TRAVEL!!!**

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/30 "2016-03-04T17:52:46Z")

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Have Phaser Will Travel

Buffy the Romulan Slayer

The Good, The Bad, The Ferengi

For a Few Quatloos More

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/31 "2016-03-04T18:00:24Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> About the only way I’d be interested in something like that is if they approach it from a very different perspective- like having the super-badass ship roaming the galaxy, but have the show center around a very junior officer, or maybe around an ensemble cast of people who are NOT calling the shots or knowing all the information. No department heads, no senior officers, etc… just _maybe_ have a recurring character who bunks with the main characters be part of the bridge crew or something like that.

It’s not a bad idea in theory, but I don’t think you could sustain a series. As an audience, we need “the big picture”. I don’t think you get that from following the behind the scenes people.

In real life, these people do good, important work, but they also understand the world they live in. If Ensign Na’mless helps find a useful piece of Klingon Kultural data that helps solve the crisis of the week, she already understands the subtlties of Klingons. But we as the audience don’t necessarily - we need someway of bringing us into the big picture, hence the use of big picture people like Kirk for the audience to follow.

In more conventional TV terms, we don’t want to have a show written around Det. Profaci’s (L&O) or Daniels’ (The Closer) or Q’s (Bond, not TNG) perspective, people that don’t leave the office much. They don’t know what’s going on. They just know their little bit. It’s not good drama.

Or, in other words, _Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead_ makes a good movie, but not a good TV show. _Hamlet_ is not a play about a gravedigger that meets a prince any more than Star Trek is a show about the engine room drone that rewires deflector dishes all day.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/32 "2016-03-04T18:20:19Z")

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How about a series about the Sgt. Bilko of StarFleet?

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/33 "2016-03-04T18:21:15Z")

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The hologram of the doctor on **Voyager** led to some interesting questions about sentience, and what they could be forced to do, etc. This has interesting legal possibilities.

**Starfleet Legal**. Heck, William Shatner could play a descendant of both Kirk and Denny Crane. James Spader could show up too, voicing an AI who opposes the Federation’s views on his fellow AI’s.

Scripts practically write themselves…

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/34 "2016-03-04T19:11:37Z")

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I really want this series to go back to basics. Trek has been off TV for so long it doesn’t need any craziness:

A positive, optimistic future.  
A starship staffed with interesting characters explores space.

Easy Peasy.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/35 "2016-03-04T19:16:26Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> I’m personally hoping for something compelling, but somehow fundamentally different from the time-worn ship cruising the galaxy saving the day by dint of superhumanly competent crewmen. DS9 was a welcome change from that, but the other Trek series and movies have basically revolved around that basic premise.  
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> About the only way I’d be interested in something like that is if they approach it from a very different perspective- like having the super-badass ship roaming the galaxy, but have the show center around a very junior officer, or maybe around an ensemble cast of people who are NOT calling the shots or knowing all the information.

TNG had one very good episode like this, “Lower Decks.” Yes, it would be a good approach.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/36 "2016-03-04T19:34:19Z")

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I’d like to see a “Species of The Week” series. Where each week they pic a different species and revolve around that. Like for instance, one week could center around the Borg, and what they were like as a society before they became “hive minded”. How did all that play out? I’d love to know.

And then next week could be all about the Dominion or whatever other random species.

Or you could do entire season arcs. Where each season is dedicated to one species.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/37 "2016-03-04T19:53:56Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I had kind of a similar idea, back when _Voyager_ was on TV. The Voyager never finds a short cut back to Federation space, and it takes them a couple centuries to get there. The next series is their return - with a whole new crew, except maybe Tuvok, descendants of the originals. They’ve successfully passed on the values of the Federation, but when they get “home,” they find that the actual Federation has become corrupt and oppressive. They end up going underground, fighting for the ideals of the original Federation while being hunted by agents of the new regime.
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> The first season finale would involve the Voyager being destroyed. The second season premiere, they find the last Enterprise, a pinnacle of Federation engineering before the decline started, hijacked decades ago by Admiral Data, who saw the inevitable direction the Federation was headed, and decided to deprive them of their most powerful warship. He wired his positronic brain directly into the ship’s computer, and abandoned his humanoid body, and he’s been waiting all this time for the right crew…

Oh my god get hired by Paramount/CBS like now!

I would totally watch this!

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/38 "2016-03-04T20:01:12Z")

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My show concept: Star Trek: Parallels, in which the ship, trying out a new propulsion method bounces from one alternate reality to another. Sort of ST meets Sliders. One good thing, you wouldn’t have pointless debates about what timeline it should be set in.

At the end of the series premier, they encounter a Borg cube that invites them to visit and says “Compliance is voluntary”.

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**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/39 "2016-03-04T20:07:35Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> And then next week could be all about the Dominion \<snip\>
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> Or you could do entire season arcs. Where each season is dedicated to one species.

Rashomon: The Final Voyage

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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-id-like-to-see-from-the-new-star-trek-series/747781/40 "2016-03-04T20:09:38Z")

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James Spader as a recurring Klingon antagonist.

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