# What If...? (Disney+ Series) \[Open Spoilers After First Post\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** disney-hulu, cartoons-animation\ **Created:** [August 11, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478 "2021-08-11T23:39:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/342 "2021-10-11T11:14:28Z")
I’ve heard that next season they hope to open it up more with Shang-Chi, but I suppose they’d rather introduce a new character in a move than a series that not everyone might watch. I was sad that Zombie Wanda (Zomda?) didn’t put up more of a fight. Hot take: Peggy Carter is a MUCH better choice for the Serum than Steve. She already has combat training, is likely stronger as Cap than Steve (if the effects of the Serum are built on existing fitness as I seem to remember) and still has the experience of being left out. I may be swayed by listening to Hayley Atwell having such a ball as CC, though. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/343 "2021-10-11T11:18:54Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Zola was made with multimillion-year-old technology implemented by unskilled labor. Actually, this brings up an interesting point. Who probably designed and invented the technology to shift Zola’s mind into a computer system? He did. So he’d know much more about AI and digitized consciousness than Ultron, who only knew enough to copy himself into another body, but not how to build anything from the ground up. A vet would know more about the workings of a dog than dogs would, if that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/344 "2021-10-11T18:23:42Z")
What happened to Drone Zola? Nat and Clint had already uploaded Zola into one of his drones and he was supposed to take over Ultron via wireless connection; he couldn’t because Ultron was outside the universe, but Zola should have gotten a connection the moment Ultron returned. Instead they had to do another upload. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/345 "2021-10-11T18:59:59Z")
> [@Galactus](#): > > The Watcher has an infinite number of realities to chose heroes from and he picks the weakest ground-level ones? The Watcher wasn’t selecting based on power. He had that from Dr Tentacles. He picked Killmonger for his betrayal. He picked the others because they were so unusual. Remember, Infinitron had killed the heroes many times over in many timelines. The Watcher knew that the machine knew how to kill the heroes in all those circumstances. So the Watcher chose the very unusual heroes, that would not behave like their nominal selves. Infinitron couldn’t adapt to those circumstances. In technical terms, the AI was overtrained. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/346 "2021-10-11T20:45:48Z")
I also get the sense if he’d picked too powerful a team they’d have just kept hammering Infinitron. They needed to be “weaker” to let him get cocky too. Raw power was useless. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/347 "2021-10-11T21:19:49Z")
Just finished watching the series, and came to this thread just to see if someone knew something about the Gamora and Stark from which Gamora was taken in the last episode. Glad to see that was already covered. Thought the Thor episode was a hoot, especially the Howard the Duck bit (once you go quack, you never go back, eh, Darcy?). While the Doctor Strange episode wasn’t my favorite of the bunch, I was pleasantly surprised that they did not go for the “irony” ending that I was predicting Strange would finally get Christine back to life, and she would reject him for having become monstrous…perhaps running away from him and getting killed while running. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/348 "2021-10-11T22:55:35Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Thought the Thor episode was a hoot, especially the Howard the Duck bit (once you go quack, you never go back, eh, Darcy?). She’s known as “Mrs The Duck” now. 🏩 ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/349 "2021-10-11T22:56:31Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > 🏩 Yeah, I don’t know who put in a “love\_hotel” emoji, but I’m going to start working it into as many posts as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/350 "2021-10-12T19:58:39Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Who probably designed and invented the technology to shift Zola’s mind into a computer system? He did. So he’d know much more about AI and digitized consciousness than Ultron, who only knew enough to copy himself into another body, but not how to build anything from the ground up. A vet would know more about the workings of a dog than dogs would, if that makes sense. There’s also the fact that, even allowing for intervals of being shut down, Zola probably has much longer (un)life experience of existence as an AI than Ultron, and thus more insight into an AI’s basic workings and vulnerabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/351 "2021-10-13T01:34:00Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I was sad that Zombie Wanda (Zomda?) didn’t put up more of a fight. She was kicking ass and taking names right up until she saw Vision’s face. She may have been a zombie, but (as evidenced by Zombie Iron Man’s, Zombie Dr. Strange’s, and Zombie Wong’s take down of Ebony Mae and Cull Obsidian) she had cognitive power. Seeing your lover’s face after you think he’s dead has got to be jarring. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/352 "2021-10-13T15:37:11Z")
I’ve seen some reactions where people think she’s just unhappy he shrugged off her attack, which seems unfair. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/353 "2021-10-13T16:17:23Z")
That was more or less my take on the scene - she was surprised that she didn’t just instantly kill Ultron with that attack. But recognizing Vision’s face is a better interpretation, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/354 "2021-10-14T00:58:36Z")
It was definitely that she saw The Vision. Or at least thought she did. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/355 "2021-10-20T18:27:16Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > “All that for a drop of blood” I don’t know why we should be meant to presume that any of the Avengers/Guardians involved in that battle, or even all of them combined, would be capable as inflicting as much damage as the unrestricted power of the Mind Stone? Also, as far as we know, the Avengers/Guardians were just trying to stop Thanos, at that point, not kill him, outright. Their plan was to get the gauntlet away from him, and yet, TTBOMR, they don’t appear to have considered just cutting his hand off (not even Drax, who actually _did_ want to kill Thanos), so I’m not convinced that it’s a question of Thanos being Just That Tough™, or if they simply weren’t willing to do Whatever It Takes™ yet. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/356 "2021-10-20T20:43:24Z")
My favorite [reaction vid](https://youtu.be/E37Fm7S8Xa4) about What If (so far). Some harsh language, but captures the fun of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![jadielyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jadielyn/32/8808_2.png) [@jadielyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jadielyn)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/357 "2023-12-25T06:12:03Z")
Guessing I may not be the only one that forgot Season 2 dropped this December 22nd. Only watched the premiere, will probably catch the others soonish. Can only say it was … interesting, not awesome, but interesting. Most of my curiosity stems from just how many differences there must have been in that reality branch to have Ronan kill off Thanos and Gamora? Presumably without an Infinity Stone? Seems implausible… but for that matter, so does the presence of Howard, Korg, Miek, Yon-Rogg, and Groot without Rocket all locked planetside prior to Ronan’s attack. Obviously quite a few changes from the ‘Sacred’ timeline here. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/358 "2023-12-25T06:25:35Z")
> [@jadielyn](#): > > he premiere, will probably catch the others soonish. Can only say it was … interesting, not awesome, but interesting. Most of my curiosity stems from just how many differences there must have been in that reality branch to have Ronan kill off Thanos and Gamora? Presumably without an Infinity Stone? Seems implausible… but for that matter, so does Don’t overthink it. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/359 "2023-12-25T15:08:54Z")
Watched up through the Christmas Party episode. Haven’t watched today’s yet. Tonally, it’s the polar opposite of last season since the episodes all end “happy”. Still mulling over it, but I think I liked last season better. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/360 "2023-12-25T15:16:16Z")
Watched the first three. The Nebula one was fine. Really liked the 1980s version of the Avengers. The Christmas one was just a joke a minute quip fest (was there a single like that wasn’t a reference or a joke?) which I am kind of tired of at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478/361 "2023-12-25T15:22:44Z")
Was it just me, or was there a _Heavy Metal_ “Hanover Fiste” reference there when Happy was pounding the halls looking for Hammer? The Death Race one was ridiculous but fun. Honestly, Jeff Goldblum’s Grandmaster is entertaining to watch (which is not to say I want him back in the films - a little goes a long way). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-disney-series-open-spoilers-after-first-post/948478.md?page=19)