# What if killing Soleimani was the right move?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193 "2020-01-09T22:52:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/161 "2020-01-16T00:30:48Z")

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> [@Isosleepy](#):
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> But that said: prima-facie - and disregarding the author - couldn’t this be called a win?

Hey, put a dollar on the Powerball for me too. Better odds.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/162 "2020-01-16T16:16:04Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> The question I’m very interested in **Damuri Ajashi** answering is the one about “So when are you going to go line up outside the Army recruitment office in the minimall in your hometown?” Because it seems like it’s always people who think OTHER people’s kids should die for their tough-guy fantasies who push for warlike responses to everything.

I already did that during the first gulf war.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/163 "2020-01-16T16:19:07Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Never. The chickenhawk calls the veterans cowards.

And since when has actual military service been a necessary precedent to having a foreign policy position that included war?

This is almost as stupid as people who think that if you support increasing taxes you should give the government more of your money.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/164 "2020-01-16T16:20:25Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> You talk big and deadly for a man with absolutely no skin in “the game.”

How do I have any less kin in the game than you?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/165 "2020-01-16T16:24:50Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> And accept the reality that their existence as a nominally sovereign nation is dependent upon the good will of the USA.

How many other nations will come to the same conclusion?  
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Well, we can’t fight the whole world and we can’t abandon countries in Europe and the Far East to global competitors like Russia and China but we can try to keep countries like iran from getting a nuclear bomb.

How far do YOU think we should be willing to go to prevent Iran from getting a bomb? Lets say that Trump shat on the Ayatollah’s desk and then molested his daughter on the desk so diplomacy was out of the question. How far do you think we should be willing to go to prevent a nuclear Iran?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/166 "2020-01-16T16:27:11Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Your boy Adolf Hitler was pretty good at this kinda stuff, too. He was also pretty good at using false pretexts for war. See, Adolf, that’s where the more, ahem, well-adjusted among us in a democracy step in and say “We’re better than this, we as citizens should have some transparency and accountability in government, and we’re not going to just shirk away because authority figures tell us to get over it.”
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> LOL. Good night, Rambo.:rolleyes:

I’m pretty sure XT would be cool with dropping a bomb on Adolf Hitler

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/167 "2020-01-16T16:57:40Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Well, we can’t fight the whole world and we can’t abandon countries in Europe and the Far East to global competitors like Russia and China but we can try to keep countries like iran from getting a nuclear bomb.

We were doing that. The JCPOA was working. Conversely, everything Trump has done, up to and including the Soleimani assassination, has facilitated and accelerated Iran becoming a nuclear power.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/168 "2020-01-16T17:05:49Z")

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Maybe we need to take a closer look at WHY certain nations have so much animosity towards us. Could it be because we have meddled and bullied and manipulated and even attacked as part of our agenda in that region? Rather than kill everyone who hates us, which would be a sizable task, perhaps we should look at improving relations.

Iran has every right to look at Trump as an enemy and a dire threat to their nation. According to our own philosophy, they should then have the right to send in a drone and vaporize his motorcade. Can you imagine what would happen if they did? We have to look at things not just from our viewpoint, but from the viewpoint of the people we are attacking.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-killing-soleimani-was-the-right-move/846193/169 "2020-01-16T17:14:19Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> Maybe we need to take a closer look at WHY certain nations have so much animosity towards us. Could it be because we have meddled and bullied and manipulated and even attacked as part of our agenda in that region? Rather than kill everyone who hates us, which would be a sizable task, perhaps we should look at improving relations.
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> Iran has every right to look at Trump as an enemy and a dire threat to their nation. According to our own philosophy, they should then have the right to send in a drone and vaporize his motorcade. Can you imagine what would happen if they did?

Pretty sure we’d invade and regime-change the country. What would you imagine would happen?

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