# What If Porn Was Actually Being Written by Chicks? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 12, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586 "2007-03-12T13:31:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/1 "2007-03-12T13:31:09Z")
I wanted to call this “what if (well-known porn author) was actually a woman”, but I couldn’t find any articles with authors’ names on _Hustler_’s website (Denise did write to say she was sorry to see me leaving, and that I really should consider joining). Anyway, in this month’s [_Brain, Child_](http://barbaracardatkinson.blogspot.com/2007/03/mommys-hooters.html) magazine there’s a piece by Barbara Card Atkinson about her experiences writing for [_Hooters_](http://www.hootersmagazine.com/) magazine under a male pseudonym. I had no idea. Apparently WE’RE writing your porn. Just wondered what men thought of that. ---
**Author:** ![sunacres](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sunacres](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunacres)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/2 "2007-03-12T13:37:15Z")
You seem to have some presumption that one gender understanding the erotic mindset of the other is surprising. Maybe you could explain the thinking behind your OP a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/3 "2007-03-12T13:37:50Z")
Writing it? To my knowledge, gals have been directing it for some time too. It’s all good in the hood. For all I care, a dacshund can direct it by poking its nose on a “probability grid”. As long as it’s hot, I care not. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/4 "2007-03-12T13:40:17Z")
Well, the money shot would change to something where the guy charector: Says “I love you” and then they cuddle for hours ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/5 "2007-03-12T13:48:49Z")
I don’t mind who writes porn as long as they are good at it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/6 "2007-03-12T13:51:32Z")
[QUOTE=sunacres] You seem to have some presumption that one gender understanding the erotic mindset of the other is surprising. Maybe you could explain the thinking behind your OP a bit. [/QUOTE] Well, one of the questions that arose (so to speak) for me is whether this helps explain the perpetuation of stereotypes. I’ve seen a lot of threads here where women say “I don’t have the body men want” and men say “Oh sure you do, why would you think otherwise?” Maybe the picture of male sexuality that’s portrayed in the media is actually a reflection of _women’s idea_ of male sexuality. There’s a lot of porn that’s supposed to be for women that is really more reflective of what men assume is sexy. Perhaps the inverse is also true? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/7 "2007-03-12T13:55:29Z")
[QUOTE=fessie] Well, one of the questions that arose (so to speak) for me is whether this helps explain the perpetuation of stereotypes. I’ve seen a lot of threads here where women say “I don’t have the body men want” and men say “Oh sure you do, why would you think otherwise?” Maybe the picture of male sexuality that’s portrayed in the media is actually a reflection of _women’s idea_ of male sexuality. There’s a lot of porn that’s supposed to be for women that is really more reflective of what men assume is sexy. Perhaps the inverse is also true? [/QUOTE] But it’s also not new. Guys rely on a forumla, and every once in a while, something new gets added to the canon. All girls have to know is what buttons to push. I mean, if you were a gal, you could find out exactly what guys like by A) asking us or B) studying porn and looking for trends. As far as it possibly being a womens’ idea of male sexuality, it’s half right. Sexuality is each gender’s idea of sex, and, more specifically, the intersection between the two circles in the Venn diagram. So many responses within 10 minutes. No, the word “porn” didn’t lure any guys in here, no sir. (or ma’am). ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/8 "2007-03-12T14:30:44Z")
The other question is, if everyone’s apparently so OK with it, why would the writers and magazines use male pseudonyms? ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/9 "2007-03-12T15:06:54Z")
Probably for similar reasons as to why men use female pseudonyms when writing romance novels… ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/10 "2007-03-12T18:52:32Z")
[QUOTE=Flutterby] Probably for similar reasons as to why men use female pseudonyms when writing romance novels.. [/QUOTE] Exactly. Unless it’s written/directed by a well known current/former porn star, lots of men might think: “What? Written and directed by some chick?! Man, it’s probably all touchy-feely crap. I’ll buy “Leather Vixens 17,” written and directed by Dick Mantool. Now _that’s_ a man’s name!” ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/11 "2007-03-12T18:54:27Z")
[QUOTE=fessie] The other question is, if everyone’s apparently so OK with it, why would the writers and magazines use male pseudonyms? [/QUOTE] I don’t read pseudonyms. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/12 "2007-03-12T19:22:40Z")
Moving thread from IMHO to Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/13 "2007-03-12T19:58:58Z")
What the woman says she wrote is not porn: > [@](#): > > If one is writing for Hooters about sailfishing/massage techniques/hotel openings/Crunk based solely on information one cobbles together on the Internet an hour before going to press, one is indeed a hack. That’s not the same as saying that women can’t or don’t write porn, but I don’t get how writing about Crunk for Hooters makes you a porn writer. The article isn’t online at the actual Brain, Child magazine so I don’t know what else it says, but I’d like the OP to tell us how she knows porn got involved. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/14 "2007-03-12T20:11:43Z")
There’s actually a book on this topic. It’s called Turning on the Girls and it’s a comedy book, with some serious bits. The general thesis is there has been some sort of revolution which turns us from a masculine-dominated society to a feminine dominated society. This young woman is put in charge of a government agency dedicated to encouraging healthy sexuality amongst the population. So she has to figure out how to make girl porn but without the objectifying so common in male-produced porn. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/15 "2007-03-12T22:00:18Z")
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] What the woman says she wrote is not porn [/QUOTE] That’s true. I didn’t say that she wrote porn - she actually wrote the " ‘ultimate how-to’ article on shaving (a face, that is) while her baby napped". The article in _Brain, Child_ also says: > [@Ms. Atkinson](#): > > _Hooters Magazine_ was, and is, not the only magazine written mostly by women in their thirties and forties. At _Maxim_ Laura Silverman was managing editor until she decided to take it overseas to dirty up India. A common theory in the industry is that women can do sexy without tipping into actual sleaze, which one could argue is disproved by _Hustler Canada_ publisher Belinda Riverin. While the titular head of _Playboy_ is Hugh Hefner, day-to-day magazine operations are run by editor Gretchen Edgren, and the Playboy empire is run by Hef’s daughter, Christie Steven, your siggy is particularly hilarious with that post 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/16 "2007-03-12T22:35:54Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] But it’s also not new. Guys rely on a forumla, and every once in a while, something new gets added to the canon. All girls have to know is what buttons to push. I mean, if you were a gal, you could find out exactly what guys like by A) asking us or B) studying porn and looking for trends. [/QUOTE] If you are only talking about videos, then writing porn has to be the easiest job in the world. All you need to know for standard one on one heterosexual porn is: 1. Create a premise - A guy meets a waitress, stewardess, maid, neighbor’s wife, etc. 2. Make your characters have oral sex. BJ’s are mandatory, cunnilingus is not. 3. Vaginal sex. 4. Anal sex (though this is not absolutely necessary.) 5. Money shot. I don’t think it is beyond the power of women figure out how to write like this. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/17 "2007-03-12T22:53:07Z")
Does it involve naked girlies? If so then I’m good, no matter _who_ wrote/directed/etc. it. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/18 "2007-03-13T01:16:40Z")
Hooters has a magazine? Lordy. But if you’re talking written porn, as in pornographic stories, I’d say women are the majority. Check out 99% of online fan fiction and the UK’s [Scarlett Magazine](http://www.scarletmagazine.co.uk/) – much hotter than Playgirl (and not directed at gay males!) ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/19 "2007-03-13T01:29:47Z")
**What If Porn Was Actually Being Written by Chicks?** Hot giggling naked pillow-fighting chicks perhaps? I find this option much more appealing than “greasy guy in leather pants” writing stuff to get me off. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586/20 "2007-03-13T02:37:40Z")
You don’t have to imagine. [Femme Films run by ex porn star Candida Royalle has produced female and couples based works.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_Films) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-porn-was-actually-being-written-by-chicks/395586.md?page=2)