# What if RT Firefly is right about a GOP game-changer?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 13, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596 "2012-09-13T14:04:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/21 "2012-09-13T17:25:10Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> In [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15486846&postcount=69), Mr. **Firefly** suggests, if I’m not over-reading him, that maybe the GOP ought to re-assess and decide to abort Romney’s nomination, and start over again fresh with a brand-new candidate, for moral and political reasons both.

Nah, for moral reasons alone.

I leave their political choices up to them. I’ve always thought telling the other side what it ought to do to win was getting at least to the border of concern-trolling territory.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/22 "2012-09-13T17:51:34Z")

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The things is, we aren’t just voting for Romney or Obama. We are voting for which party the new cabinet and new justices will be picked from, which party will be selecting the next FEMA head and the next drug czar. A party that tries to switch candidates in the middle of the stream would lose a lot of voters. Romney would have to really screw the pooch, perhaps even literally, before his party could reasonably dump him and even then, who would vote for a party that so couldn’t get its act together?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/23 "2012-09-13T18:10:39Z")

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Who else have they got who’d do better? The runner-up in the primaries was Santorum, for pity’s sake.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/24 "2012-09-13T18:36:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I could imagine New Gingrich pulling a Haig and announcing “I’m in charge!” 🙂

First laugh I’ve had today.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/25 "2012-09-13T19:09:32Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> This is a good point. I think Romney is probably a better debater than Obama [I may have pulled this out of my butt, so I don’t have a cite], although I don’t know how much debates impact presidential elections anymore.

This is a hijack, Ono, but how do you figure Romney is a better debater? We all saw him in numerous Republican debates, and his chief tactic seem to be to wait until the other guys said something stupid, and they always did. Obama is unlikely to say anything stupid, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/26 "2012-09-13T20:07:19Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Who else have they got who’d do better? The runner-up in the primaries was Santorum, for pity’s sake.

With the upcoming 2016 campaign of Rev. Huckabee, I could see a Santorum nomination, now.

Still, the worst that can happen to the GOP is people not voting at all. I think that flip-flopping is certainly not a problem for any campaigner against Obama. It’s come down to, “Yeah, Mittens sucks, but he ain’t Obama!”

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/27 "2012-09-13T20:46:26Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> 1. He’s hit by his campaign bus and is killed.

I like that you delineate a specific cause of death as a prerequisite here. So, assuming any other cause of death, the rest of the campaign is going to play out as _Weekend at Mitt’s?_ I could get behind that; sunglasses would be a good look on him.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/28 "2012-09-13T22:04:24Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> So, assuming any other cause of death, the rest of the campaign is going to play out as _Weekend at Mitt’s?_ I could get behind that; sunglasses would be a good look on him.

How do we know that isn’t what’s already going on now? Mittens isn’t exactly the liveliest character and he even got bullied out of a moment of silence by a SINGLE heckler… hmm…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/29 "2012-09-13T22:12:47Z")

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Could you elaborate on that, please, **Enkel**? I don’t watch news on television, and it appears that I missed discussion of any such incident.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/30 "2012-09-13T22:33:47Z")

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Let us remember the reason why Romney is the nominee, which is that Republican voters accurately perceived him to be more nearly electable in November than any **other** Pub candidate in the field; the rest of the lot being either clowns like Cain or odious ideological nutcases like Santorum, Gingrich and Paul. I mean, if they dump him now, who else have they got who wouldn’t be worse?!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-rt-firefly-is-right-about-a-gop-game-changer/634596/31 "2012-09-13T23:03:35Z")

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For kaylasdad: [From Politico:](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81178.html?hp=l1)

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> One protester, caught on camera by networks covering the event, shouted “Why are you politicizing Libya?” before being shouted down by the crowd, which began chanting “USA.” The protester was escorted out of the event.
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> “I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn’t want to be silent — so we’re going to keep on going,” Romney said/

One guy yells something and Mittens calls the whole thing off.

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