# What if the January 6 insurrection had been more successful? **URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-january-6-insurrection-had-been-more-successful/945442 **Category:** Politics & Elections **Created:** [July 1, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-january-6-insurrection-had-been-more-successful/945442 "2021-07-01T16:56:10Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 39
### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT) #### Post date: [July 1, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-january-6-insurrection-had-been-more-successful/945442/39 "2021-07-01T23:45:45Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > They weren’t trying to start an insurrection - they were just a bunch of angry people trying to ‘have their voices heard’. Once they broke into the actual Senate chambers they basically just milled around acting like tourists, taking selfies, sitting in the speaker’s chair, etc. None of them were armed with firearms. Enough of them were old and out of shape that several deaths occurred just because of exertion and stress - including the capitol pooice officer who died of natural causes. Later, in another thread… > [@Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/876): > > Amd that’s what I think happened on Jan 6. A protest turned into a riot and bad shit went down - egged on by an asshole ex-president. The evidence shows that the ex-President knowingly and with aforethought raised a private army to attack the Legislative branch with the direct and express purpose of preventing their Constitutionally-defined duty from being exercised, with him doing this at the time and date on which the army would be most effective. His incompetence is not under discussion here. As he was incompetent running the country, he was incompetent in leading an Insurrection. Which is irrelevant to your quotes above. Sam. We literally had a 3,300+ post thread, started on November 9th, 2020, entitled “The American Coup” which detailed every step taken by Trump to raise and lead _this_ Insurrection. There was no doubt about his intentions, even early on - there are a couple of polls asking this very question in the thread. I mean, _I EVEN TOOK THE DAY OFF WORK TO WATCH THE UPCOMING ATTACK_ for God’s sake. 🙄 As we saw the conservatives deny the reality of viruses to the tune of 500,000 excess deaths, such a catastrophic and grave sin I’m just gonna call it The American Genocide from now on… > **[Kushner's coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing...](https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-covid-19-plan-maybe-axed-for-political-reasons-report-2020-7)** > > Some members of Kushner's COVID-19 team thought it was better to leave Democratic-voting areas to fend for themselves, a source told Vanity Fair. … we now see conservatives deny the reality of literally watching Donald Trump raise a private army as to lead an Insurrection to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America. “Riot” my ass. Only to those who wish to purposely lie to themselves about the true nature of their actions and beliefs. Read the thread. It is documented. No doubt about the reality of the coup, not if “fighting ignorance” is your goal, much less “sharing a consensual reality based upon real-world evidence”. > [@The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182): > > thinking Trump fired his Secretary of Defense, replaced Esper with Chris Miller. This is a totally normal thing for an outgoing President to prioritize. Esper then says, in an interview in Military Times, that for the George Floyd protests he (Esper) would not support Trump’s desire to invoke the Insurrection Act against the Floyd protesters: [[Google Photos] ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/9xqbCpACp8jJAxHG6) We know if you’re Donald Trump and you want troops on the streets for a Portland police stat… --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-january-6-insurrection-had-been-more-successful/945442)._