# What if the US had a good education system would this lead to a more scrutinize governance

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**Created:** [September 21, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106 "2014-09-21T20:35:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/21 "2014-09-22T12:50:03Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> And on the other end of the campus was semi-auto shop.

_golfclap_

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/22 "2014-09-22T13:28:09Z")

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> [@malghe](#):
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> If america had a better educative system.
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> They would believe like the rest of the world in evoution.

I would have to hear more about this “evoution” before I decide whether I believe in it or not. If it’s anything like that “theory of evolution” I keep hearing about, well, that’s just crazy talk.

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> They would not sell guns to the public.

How do you expect us to kill our food, and any random people we don’t like?

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> They would not have stupid evangelist brainwashing them and taking their money.

Pat Robertson doesn’t take my money, I give it to him of my own free will. And since the Lord says 10 percent, I give 20, 'cause I consider it an investment in my heavenly future, know what I mean?

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> They would not elect idiots who take them to war to protect the interest of multinationals.

What’s good for Halliburton is good for the country. Everyone knows that.

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> They would understand the rest of the world better.

Most of the land area of the planet consists of third-world shitholes. And you apparently live in one and are jealous of us. What’s to understand?

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> They would eat less fast food and be less obese.

Fast food allows me to manage my time much more efficiently, so I can take longer baths and watch many more interesting TV progrqams.

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> They would have a national healthcare system. For go sake how can you believe those corrupts offocials on the books of private corporations who tell you that it is a bad idea?

They’re experts. I assume they know what they are talking about. Who are you exactly? I’m guessing some sort of Communist.

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> You are paying more per habitat in health care than the rest of the world. And you still believe those old farts republicans . The british gave you capitalism and they have a natinal healthcaare system.

We can’t help it if the Brits lack the courage of their convictions. That’s part of the reason we fought for our independence, you know: it was obvious even back in the 1700s that the British would go all weak-kneed on capitalism when it counted.

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> The idiots who tell you it is not good for you cal them selves patriots . How can you be one if you don’t acknowledge your fellow citizens rich or poor.

I acknowledge my fellow citizens every day, mostly by blasting my horn at them when they hold me up in traffic.

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> Yes a nation care for its citizens look at your neighboor Canada.

I used to look at Canada all the time, but they told me to stop staring and threatened me with a restraining order, so now I’m careful not to make eye contact.

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> Wealth would be more equaly spread amongst the population.

So you are in fact a Communist. I knew it!

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> I mean you are suppose to be one of the richest and still you have an incredible amount of poor illiterates and seem to collect ghettos in which you park the poor.

Well, we thought about letting them just starve to death, but it turns out there is still some need for low-wage, low-skill workers, so we’ll leave 'em in the ghettos for now.

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> And still there you are told by elected elite that you should show the world that the american way is the right way.

What? We elected them; the least they can do is tell us what we want to hear. Ever hear of Jimmy Carter? He thought he could get away with telling people what they didn’t want to hear, and now he’s building houses in third-world shitholes like the one you no doubt live in. Pissed away a lucrative career in the private sector, the fool.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/23 "2014-09-22T13:53:16Z")

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I’m all in favor of an education system that teaches people how to use a damn spell-checker.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/24 "2014-09-22T14:25:02Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> As much as I admire the OP’s indisputable literary skills – I cannot possibly do justice to the innovative free verse format in which he has presented his case – I have to draw the line at the phrase “…your **neighboor** Canada”. The talent that the OP displays for orthographic insult is palpable, but any decent man will know that there is nothing boorish in the Canadian character. Sure we like beer, but our love of beer derives from a tradition of knowing how to actually brew it, and as for poutine, that boorish fat-fest is mainly relegated to the province of Quebec, whose residents we lovingly refer to as “Frenchies”, “frogs”, or “pepsis”, and they laugh approvingly because they know that, even though they tried twice to separate from the rest of the country, we love them as we would our dearest brothers who spoke some foreign language and were always trying to denounce us.
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> So lay off the “neighboor” stuff, OK?

Fine, then. “our neigh **beer** Canada.”

Is that OK, eh?

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/25 "2014-09-22T14:27:32Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Ranking of obesity rates:  
> #2 USA  
> **#4 Canada**?

It’s the poutine and beer.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/26 "2014-09-22T15:17:04Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I would have to hear more about this “evoution” before I decide whether I believe in it or not. If it’s anything like that “theory of evolution” I keep hearing about, well, that’s just crazy talk.

Well, being edukated in ?Merica, we’er taut that Adam mated the monkey, or da ape or somethin like dat. And then Tarzan was borne, and he mated Jane who was the mother of mankind. Its’ in one of dem bibble books near the bak I think. Perhaps the books of Revolutions or the book of King James.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/27 "2014-09-22T15:22:53Z")

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> [@malghe](#):
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> If america had a better educative system.
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> They would eat less fast food and be less obese.

If obesity in America strikes you as a terrible thing, you’d better get to work sealing our Southern border.

No joke- what do you suppose the fattest country in the world is? (Nope, it’s NOT the United States!)

> **[Mexico surpasses U.S. as world’s fattest nation: report](https://www.nydailynews.com/2013/07/09/mexico-surpasses-us-as-worlds-fattest-nation-report/)**
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> Is Mexico even fatter than the United States? No thanks to industrialized agriculture, widely available cheap junk food and the invasion of fast food chains from the U.S., our south-of-the-border n…

Mexicans are now the world’s fattest people. And every day, thousands of these folks are comming to the USA and raising our collective blood pressure and cholesterol levels.

Get thee to the border and join the Minutemen now, Malghe! It’s our only hope!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/28 "2014-09-22T15:24:33Z")

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Dear OP: Thank you so much for your reasoned critique of America and it’s failure to educate. We will give your post all the attention and respect it deserves.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/29 "2014-09-22T15:25:33Z")

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**malghe** ’s things to do before being banned -

Slam Jews - _check_  
Slam USA - _check_  
Slam Christians - _pending_  
Slam minorities - _pending_  
Use spell Checker - _tabled indefinitely_  
Use punctuation - _rejected_

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/30 "2014-09-22T15:30:29Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Dear OP: Thank you so much for your reasoned critique of America and it’s failure to educate.

Superfluous apostrophe, you peasant.

Yours in hope of a more scrutinize governance,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/31 "2014-09-22T15:35:50Z")

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> [@malghe](#):
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> …  
> I mean you are suppose to be one of the richest and still you have an incredible amount of poor illiterates and seem to collect ghettos in which you park the poor.  
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I’ve collected 5 ghettos so far, and I’m working on #6 right now so I can get my Ghetto Collectors Merit Badge.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/32 "2014-09-22T15:52:48Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I’ve collected 5 ghettos so far, and I’m working on #6 right now so I can get my Ghetto Collectors Merit Badge.

Oh BlaH1 Ghetto’s are easy. My nephew picked up eight Country Clubs (6 gets you a privileged Badge) and is well on his way to getting a double affluent cluster.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/33 "2014-09-22T17:05:05Z")

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> [@Svejk\_1](#):
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> Hopefully it would lead to better thread titles, at least. And the use of multi-sentence paragraphs.

Not to mention correct spelling, grammar and syntax.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/34 "2014-09-22T17:43:47Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> **malghe** ’s things to do before being banned -
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> Slam Jews - _check_

Huh?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/35 "2014-09-22T17:57:18Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Huh?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17745094&postcount=71](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17745094&postcount=71)

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**Author:** ![orangeapples](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@orangeapples](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orangeapples)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/36 "2014-09-22T17:59:44Z")

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Yes. Goes without saying, really.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/37 "2014-09-22T19:10:20Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I used to look at Canada all the time, but they told me to stop staring and threatened me with a restraining order, so now I’m careful not to make eye contact.

_American woman, get away from meeee._

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/38 "2014-09-22T19:36:40Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17745094&postcount=71](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17745094&postcount=71)

Oh. I was only looking at the OP.

I agree that the road to bandome can be short and straight.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/39 "2014-09-22T19:39:34Z")

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nm  
The Doctor got it

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**Author:** ![malghe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@malghe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malghe)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-the-us-had-a-good-education-system-would-this-lead-to-a-more-scrutinize-governance/699106/40 "2014-09-22T20:10:09Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> So, an “good” educational system is one which instill Liberal cliches into the youngsters instead of Conservative talking points. Okay.

No I agree but it is one that teaches basics human rights also applies to your own citizens not just to the elite.

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