# What if Trump refuses to leave the WH?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 19, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845 "2018-03-19T20:22:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/21 "2018-03-20T07:55:59Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I remember reading Jackie Kennedy took a long time to leave the WH after the assination. LBJ was getting pissed off and called RFK to help get her out.

I have seen it reported that QE2 was heard to pass one or two loaded remarks about the time it took for her mother to complete the swap over the road between Buckingham Palace and Clarence House.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/22 "2018-03-20T08:46:37Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I remember reading Jackie Kennedy took a long time to leave the WH after the assination. LBJ was getting pissed off and called RFK to help get her out.

From memory, the Johnsons told her to take all the time she needed about moving out of the private quarters. As the Kennedys had sold their Georgetown house following JFK’s election, it wasn’t immediately clear where she would go. In the event she exactly a fortnight after the assassination, which doesn’t seem unduly long to me.

However LBJ wanted to take over the Oval Office and associated facilities as early as possible, and I think this may have been where there was a degree of friction. Jackie had just completed the redecoration of the Oval Office - it was the last element of her White House refurbishment - and LBJ had it cleared out even before JFK’s funeral.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/23 "2018-03-20T13:06:07Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Was just wondering who would physically do it.

Some poor schmuck who would spend the next few days muttering “239 pounds my ass!” while recovering from various aches and pains.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/24 "2018-03-20T13:50:22Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Hehehe. “Donald who??”

“Don’s not here, man.”

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/25 "2018-03-20T14:03:36Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Some poor schmuck who would spend the next few days muttering “239 pounds my ass!” while recovering from various aches and pains.

Thanks for the chuckle. They could train for the job by wrestling walruses.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/26 "2018-03-20T14:06:41Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Some poor schmuck who would spend the next few days muttering “239 pounds my ass!” while recovering from various aches and pains.

He could make two trips.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/27 "2018-03-20T14:07:01Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> You guys are thinking two dimensionally… .

I’m pretty sure I just ovulated.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/28 "2018-03-21T03:05:16Z")

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_That was a fucking nightmare._  
You think it was hard landing on a 6500’ runway? Now we have to get it out of here.  
_We can go across the bay and borrow something from the naval base where they took him._  
So you are saying you can figure out how to attach JATOs to a 747?  
_I wonder if they have any cigars over there._

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/29 "2018-03-22T02:24:23Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> I’m pretty sure this question was asked before on this board about Obama. And Bush. And Clinton.

[Yep, it was.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=761250)

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/30 "2018-03-22T17:50:14Z")

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Putin would be in charge of removal, since he will have hand picked the successor.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/31 "2018-03-22T19:24:13Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Legally, Trump has no authority once his term ends on its already determined date (January 20, 2021). If there had somehow been no elections and no President or Vice President Elect standing by to assume the office as his term ended, the Presidency would fall to the next person in the line of succession. That would be whoever holds the office of Speaker of the House ( **Congress usually sets its opening day in the first week of January** and the House elects its new Speaker on that day).

Pedantic mode: Congress begins its session at noon on January 3, according to the 20th Amendment. This is why a newly elected Congress is in charge of counting the electoral votes for each Presidential election.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/32 "2018-03-22T19:51:18Z")

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Just send Joe Biden over to punch him out.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/33 "2018-03-22T19:54:45Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Just send Joe Biden over to punch him out.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

He’ll do it live!!!

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/34 "2018-03-22T20:17:32Z")

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Put it on PPV, and watch support for impeachment double overnight.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/35 "2018-03-22T20:43:32Z")

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Impunchment.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/36 "2018-03-22T21:14:12Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Impunchment.

Is that part of the little-discussed Immauluments Clause?

Stranger

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/37 "2018-03-22T21:21:17Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Excellent. That’s just what I was wondering. Would just seem kinda odd for the ‘Secret Service Men in Black’ to do it.

Actually, the optics would be a lot better if he was escorted out by plainclothes guys. And the optics would be pretty bad no matter what you did.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/38 "2018-03-22T21:30:18Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Just send Joe Biden over to punch him out.

I want that just to see two Secret Service details struggling to hold each other back.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/39 "2018-03-22T21:30:53Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Is that part of the little-discussed Immauluments Clause?

No, I believe it is part of the Emollients Clause. Wisely put in place by the Founding Fathers to aid in the skin care of a trespassing ex-President who has just been punched by an ex-vice President.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-refuses-to-leave-the-wh/810845/40 "2018-03-22T21:48:15Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> Actually, the optics would be a lot better if he was escorted out by plainclothes guys. And the optics would be pretty bad no matter what you did.

I’m assuming there would be no optics, and he would be ushered into a car with blacked out windows in the garage.

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