# What if Trump wins the 2016 presidential election?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 8, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285 "2015-08-08T01:30:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/21 "2015-08-08T06:25:20Z")

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I believe that large rifts would open up all across the land as the mountains are torn asunder, spewing ash and smoke and fire while the lakes and streams would boil and turn to sulfur. The scorching of the sky would slaughter all manner of flying fowl, bringing a sudden downfall of bloody terror. Soon, the hellspawn would emerge from the rifts and their millenia-long slumbers, to sate their bloodlust in a maniacal orgy of destruction.

Or something like that.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/22 "2015-08-08T06:47:46Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> (Bolding mine) Are you sure that’s what you meant? That’s a word used by racists to describe conservatives who aren’t racist enough.

I started using the term “cuck” some time before it became a thing among this crowd (when it was largely restricted to /pol/) and I think its good for the left to appropriate this term for those who are cuckolds of the oligarchs and the plutocrats.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/23 "2015-08-08T07:24:30Z")

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Jon Stewart might want to find a different country to hide out in for a few years, just in case President Fuckface von Clownstick is the vengeful type.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/24 "2015-08-08T09:02:08Z")

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- Increased Congressional bi-partisanship combine with increase Congressional obstruction of the President’s agenda
- At least one senior general officer commits resignation by press release
- The House passes new rules creating e a standing committee for impeachments so the Judiciary committee can still get other work done
- For a brief period there’s a renaissance of political comedy. It slows but doesn’t die in response to the lawsuits. After a while we all stop laughing though.
- The world offers to apologize for every negative joke and stereotype they’ve applied about Americans if we end what has to be out greatest national prank.
- Godwin’s Law is expanded to cover both Hitler and Trump.
- Putin challenges him to a pullup contest to decide the fate of the Ukraine.
- Ukraine is reintegrated in to greater Russia.
- Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
- Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…
- The dead rising from the grave!
- Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
- The Detroit Lions win a Super Bowl!!!

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/25 "2015-08-08T11:00:11Z")

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White House is renamed Trump House, complete with illuminated golden sign with 5-foot letters on the roof. House itself is resurfaced in gold and mirrors.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/26 "2015-08-08T12:01:06Z")

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Federeal bureaucracy will go into meltdown. Expect press leak after press leak from multiple branches of the Federal Govt of how disorganised and unworkable things are under President Trump. The pissing contest between President and bureaucracy will be fun, but I expect only one winner and it wont be Trump.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/27 "2015-08-08T12:45:07Z")

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Actually, with Trump in charge the bureaucracy would be about the only thing that would go well. Assuming he could fire people for poor performance.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/28 "2015-08-08T12:58:21Z")

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We’d have nothing to worry about. North Korea would invade South Korea. Putin would take back Alaska. China would claim Hawaii. The south would succeed again. California would fall into the sea. Cuba would invade Florida. Global warming would make Canada inhabitable. Illegal immigration would stop, and the illegal immigrants would leave. Rosie O’Donnell would get a new late night show. Toupee stock would double overnight.

What bad could happen?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/29 "2015-08-08T13:07:02Z")

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He would do a better job than some of the people running. He would do the same mediocre job as any of the rest of the candidates if they were elected.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/30 "2015-08-08T13:12:47Z")

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A few days ago Scott Adams of\* Dilbert\* fame blogged [How Trump Becomes President](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/125930283831/how-trump-becomes-president)

> [@](#):
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> I’m not saying he can deliver on any promises. I’m only saying he is likely to have the sort of platform that looks appealing to independents.
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> Now let’s say Trump gets strategic because he sees that his stroll across the presidential landscape is being taken seriously. He never really had to get serious before. But I’ll bet he could turn it on like a switch if he thought it would get him elected. I would expect him to dial back his crazy-sounding stuff as his poll numbers grow.
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> But that’s not what gets him elected. If he wants the independents and some Democrats to vote his way, he needs something bigger. He needs a trump card.
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> And he has it.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/31 "2015-08-08T13:40:23Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> In all seriousness, Donald Trump is a big-government liberal. He has [given campaign cash](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-donation-history-shows-democratic-favoritism/2011/04/25/AFDUddtE_story.html) to Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Ted Kennedy. (And all of them were happy to accept campaign cash from him.) He’s [used](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen) eminent domain repeatedly to steal land from people less wealthy than himself. He [likes](http://articles.courant.com/1994-06-03/news/9406030357_1_trump-connecticut-casinos-in-atlantic-city-trump-s-lawyers) the idea of business and government working together to revitalize urban areas. He [promises](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-trump-rails-against-cutting-social-security-medicare-during-gop-summit/) to never cut a penny of spending from Social Security and Medicare. He burbles about bringing jobs back from China.

[Trump has actually given more money to Republicans than he has to Democrats.](http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/)

Republicans are perfectly happy to use Imminent Domain themselves, especially lately with the [Keystone Pipeline deal](http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/03/01/3625804/keystone-kelo-eminent-domain-property/).

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/32 "2015-08-08T13:41:18Z")

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Well, there’s no doubt he’ll get the minority and women’s vote. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/33 "2015-08-08T13:54:00Z")

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World opinion of the U.S. would plummet if he became president. Like a sad cartoon where the main character is a monkey who has access to weaponry.

He is in a unique situation however whereas he doesn’t have to answer to anyone and promote specific interests or risk losing money to fund his presidency bid. Too bad he’s a buffoon.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/34 "2015-08-08T14:00:36Z")

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The country would be officially remamed “The Trump United States”

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/35 "2015-08-08T14:49:05Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> OK, which would be classier: Trump States of America, or United States of Trump?

> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> The country would be officially remamed “The Trump United States”

**Mr Shine** , you’re about 27 posts too late. 🙂

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/36 "2015-08-08T14:54:24Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> … Congress doesn’t really matter, because Trump’s agenda is 99% based on things the executive can do. I hate to say it, but knowing what an executive does seems to be a subject that Trump has over all the other candidates, who seem to think that they can make legislation happen.

We have plenty of evidence over the last 4-8 years that Congress can pretty well stymie the executive.

Trump may well be \*claiming \*today that most of what he’s proposing can be done by executive fiat assuming a responsive (or cowed) executive branch bureaucracy. But the reality will probably demonstrate the bureaucracy is less than fully responsive to orders and Congress has a lot more influence than Trump or you currently suspect. They may not be able to _do_, but they certainly can _don’t_.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/37 "2015-08-08T14:55:23Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> **Mr Shine** , you’re about 27 posts too late. 🙂

Well, no. ‘The Trump United States’ is a completely new, original, and uniquish variation.

And since it hasn’t been offered I’ll toss in ‘The United Trumps of American States’.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/38 "2015-08-08T15:06:04Z")

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You’re right. I was hasty and unnecessarily exclusionary.

Considering who & what we’re talking about I propose  
The Trump Trumps of Trump  
They don’t get trumped, they \*are \*trump. And Trump.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/39 "2015-08-08T15:12:34Z")

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> [@syncrolecyne](#):
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> I’d like to think a few states would secede and join Canada.

I think I’d go with them.

He probably won’t come after Maine.

> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> Jon Stewart might want to find a different country to hide out in for a few years, just in case President Fuckface von Clownstick is the vengeful type.

He can come with me to Canada. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/40 "2015-08-08T15:55:11Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> He can come with me to Canada. 😃

Don’t come . We’re full.

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