# What if Trump wins the 2016 presidential election?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 8, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285 "2015-08-08T01:30:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/61 "2015-08-10T19:02:41Z")

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There would be a lot of wars.

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**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/62 "2015-08-10T19:06:58Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> That term is being used by white supremacists to cast non-racist whites as race traitors. It’s disgusting.

Cuckservative isn’t racist. It’s simply the correct observation that only White people can preserve traditional American values. The GOP can’t convert Mexicans and Guatemalans to free market capitalism because those people lack a cultural tradition of individuality or free markets. If conservatives want to preserve American values, they have to preserve a White America. Liberals implicitly realize this, which is why they push for third-world immigration - they correctly understand there’s no risk of these people being converted to tea partiers. But the GOP doesn’t get this and is unconcerned about the demographic decline of the only group that has ever supported American conservatism in large numbers.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/63 "2015-08-10T19:32:57Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It is similar enough. The President is supreme in the executive branch and completely accountable for everything that happens within it. Trump seems to get that better than most. Most Presidential candidates not only see themselves as legislators as well as executives, but act as if they are helpless to make the government work.

Right. All the governors and former governors running have absolutely no idea of how legislation gets passed. Amazing - you think they are dumber than I do.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/64 "2015-08-10T19:44:30Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> Cuckservative isn’t racist. It’s simply the correct observation that only White people can preserve traditional American values. The GOP can’t convert Mexicans and Guatemalans to free market capitalism because those people lack a cultural tradition of individuality or free markets. If conservatives want to preserve American values, they have to preserve a White America.

This may be my favorite post in the history of this board.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/65 "2015-08-10T19:52:30Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> This may be my favorite post in the history of this board.

It’s heartening when somebody demonstrates that your previous statement was 100% correct.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/66 "2015-08-10T19:53:34Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> It’s heartening when somebody demonstrates that your previous statement was 100% correct.

I almost feel like I should be checking me for socks right now.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/67 "2015-08-10T19:55:43Z")

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/68 "2015-08-10T19:58:50Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I almost feel like I should be checking me for socks right now.

Why would you ever think that a poster known as “Construct” isn’t for real?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/69 "2015-08-10T21:54:55Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> Cuckservative isn’t racist. It’s simply the correct observation that only White people can preserve traditional American values. The GOP can’t convert Mexicans and Guatemalans to free market capitalism because those people lack a cultural tradition of individuality or free markets. If conservatives want to preserve American values, they have to preserve a White America. Liberals implicitly realize this, which is why they push for third-world immigration…

Yes, because it’s far better to create leftist governments, which have failed all over the globe and in fact are largely responsible for the very conditions that cause people to flee and seek refuge or better lives in a country with traditional American values. Hopefully they’ll wake up in time to realize that the Democrats who’re ostensibly in favor of open borders for humanitarian reasons are actually counting on them to help create the types of failed economies they’re already running from.

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**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/70 "2015-08-10T22:31:55Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yes, because it’s far better to create leftist governments, which have failed all over the globe and in fact are largely responsible for the very conditions that cause people to flee and seek refuge or better lives in a country with traditional American values. Hopefully they’ll wake up in time to realize that the Democrats who’re ostensibly in favor of open borders for humanitarian reasons are actually counting on them to help create the types of failed economies they’re already running from.

I’d like to see that happen as much as the next guy, but I can recognize that it won’t. Leftist governments may be responsible for economic and social failure, but leftism is itself a consequence of cultural and environmental factors. And even though Zimbabwe probably should abandon Marxism, fly in Chicago school economists, and establish a government based on Lockean principles, they almost certainly won’t. It’s not impossible for non-White societies to create Western style governments, as Pinochet’s Chile and Singapore can attest, but it is very uncommon. And as such, if the US wants to maintain a traditional American government and way of life, we need to maintain traditional American people: Whites.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/71 "2015-08-11T00:14:16Z")

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Let’s take this to another thread. [In the Pit.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=764716)

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/72 "2015-08-11T04:27:26Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#):
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> Federeal bureaucracy will go into meltdown.

Incorrect word choice. The correct word is lockdown. The federal “bureaucracy” is almost all of the Executive Branch so the reality is the bureaucracy would be committing “treason” in Trump’s eyes, and under the law. But the Judicial and Legislative Branches are under no such constraints. The Legislative Branch would do what it can to protect the bureaucracy while the Judicial Branch would ensure and court threats by Trump would bog down and go nowhere.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/73 "2015-08-11T04:43:45Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> … Zimbabwe probably should abandon Marxism, fly in Chicago school economists, and establish a government based on Lockean principles, they almost certainly won’t. It’s not impossible for non-White societies to create Western style governments, as Pinochet’s Chile and Singapore can attest, but it is very uncommon. And as such, if the US wants to maintain a traditional American government and way of life, we need to maintain traditional American people: Whites.

How about blacks, whose ancestors have been in U.S.A. longer than Irish, Italian immigrants, etc.? Or 2nd-generation immigrants from Asian and Hispanic cultures? Or 1st-generation immigrants for that matter who become U.S. citizens? Ae they incapable of voting intelligently, or do you just not like how they vote?

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/74 "2015-08-11T05:05:12Z")

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Back to the OP.

I think he will be good at foreign relations seeing how he has traveled the world many times and made many high end negotiations, many times with foreign firms.

He also has alot of experience with picking some of top people for high level positions.

Really what experience in foreign business relationships or hiring top people did Clinton, Bush, or Obama have before entering office?

However he never has proven himself in a lower office. I feel any president should be a governor, senator or such first.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/75 "2015-08-11T10:47:21Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> He also has alot of experience with picking some of top people for high level positions.

Yeah, like his lawyer and closest advisor who thinks it is legal to rape your wife.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/76 "2015-08-11T13:23:06Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Yeah, like his lawyer and closest advisor who thinks it is legal to rape your wife.

That would go over quite well in a number of countries.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/77 "2015-08-11T15:49:33Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> Cuckservative isn’t racist. It’s simply the correct observation that only White people can preserve traditional American values.

OK, I’ll bite: If that’s not racist, what is racist?

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/78 "2015-08-11T16:22:11Z")

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**What if Trump wins the 2016 presidential election?**  
[There will be Hell Toupee.](https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11866483_10204637869601919_2071756653202940270_n.jpg?oh=8558037bb2fce039507137f15764fbb4&oe=564CDD8D)

But don’t fret, [We Shall Overcomb.](http://i.imgur.com/g0BBQV3.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/79 "2015-08-12T07:01:00Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> Cuckservative isn’t racist. It’s simply the correct observation that only White people can preserve traditional American values. The GOP can’t convert Mexicans and Guatemalans to free market capitalism because those people lack a cultural tradition of individuality or free markets. If conservatives want to preserve American values, they have to preserve a White America. Liberals implicitly realize this, which is why they push for third-world immigration - they correctly understand there’s no risk of these people being converted to tea partiers. But the GOP doesn’t get this and is unconcerned about the demographic decline of the only group that has ever supported American conservatism in large numbers.

Yes, I’m sure that’s why Nixon and Reagan failed to convert all those millions of white ethnics (Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews etc.) to the New Right from New Deal democracy. I mean Italy or Poland certainly didn’t have a tradition of individuality or free markets. :dubious::rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/80 "2015-08-15T00:27:51Z")

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Two words: Reality show

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