# What "innocent" group of people can you simply not stand? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 28, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982 "2015-10-28T16:27:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/201 "2015-11-02T13:25:29Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Men who use the handicap-accessible restroom stall for no reason other than they like it. meh. I do that when I feel like it. Fuck the imaginary handicapped person who’s nowhere in sight. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/202 "2015-11-02T14:57:51Z")
> [@Orange\_Skinner](#): > > Those who INSIST you try whatever Vegan/gluten-free/sugar-free/no-fat dish they’ve brought to the Fourth of July picnic. I am a vegetarian and even if I weren’t, I simply cannot stand the taste of shellfish. A woman brought what she said was a nice couscous veggie salad to a potluck. I asked her if there was any meat or fish in it. She said no. I took one bite, spit it out and said “There’s shellfish in this. BLECH!”: She said “Oh, you can’t taste the little bit of crabmeat in it.” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/203 "2015-11-02T15:09:22Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Supermarket check outs; those fucking halfwits who take an age to pack up their pathetic purchases, standing around for a minute trying to remember what they’ve forgotten, turns out they have to pay, then they don’t know what pocket their purse is in, then they can’t find the right card, then they take another minute to remember the PIN, then they can’t find their glasses so they can enter the PIN before they forget it … and so it goes, on and fucking on and fucking on. The woman this morning almost get a 4 pack of tinned tuna right up her estuary. Maybe it’s \*\*HRT \*\*or something. Bolding mine. HRT? Hormone Replacement Therapy? Her Royal Tuna-ness? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/204 "2015-11-02T15:10:56Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > those fucking halfwits who take an age to pack up their pathetic purchases, Just out of curiosity, which grocery store purchases do you find “pathetic”? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/205 "2015-11-02T15:28:38Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Just out of curiosity, which grocery store purchases do you find “pathetic”? Spam ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/206 "2015-11-02T15:31:32Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > meh. I do that when I feel like it. Fuck the imaginary handicapped person who’s nowhere in sight. I tore a new one for the person who was using the handicap stall as a phone booth while I was standing there, full cast on my arm and having to pee. “If you’re not handicapped in there, please get out!” She looked at me and said “Well, I never saw a handicapped person in here before.” ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/207 "2015-11-02T15:52:27Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > meh. I do that when I feel like it. Fuck the imaginary handicapped person who’s nowhere in sight. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Lowdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Lowdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lowdown)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/208 "2015-11-02T15:58:01Z")
> [@Orange\_Skinner](#): > > Muscular people who walk with their upper arms held just a little further out than they really need to be, perhaps to draw attention to how they are, in fact, muscular people. Sometimes I’ll see men who have just started working out that aren’t really that muscular yet do this too, perhaps to get them acclimated to where their arms will be located once they’ve reached their fitness goals. With huge dudes that’s just how the arms hang. For most dudes that happens because they don’t stretch. Haven’t seen it with the just-started-outers, but I’d agree that’s not the best. > [@Orange\_Skinner](#): > > Those who INSIST you try whatever Vegan/gluten-free/sugar-free/no-fat dish they’ve brought to the Fourth of July picnic. You try to get out of the awkward situation of trying a food you know you won’t like by letting them down easy: you’re “just not really all that in to quinoa,” or say that “baked goods without eggs in them probably ARE healthier, but they just always seem to taste a little bit off to me.” Rather than allowing you to bow out gracefully here, these people re-double their efforts, insisting that “it tastes even better than the real thing,” and “using shredded wood chips instead of flour as a binding agent makes the sauce so much richer,” until, finally, just to get them to GO AWAY, you agree to sample whatever it is that they’re peddling. And it’s awful. And you can’t hide your revulsion at how this alleged chocolate chip cookie tastes and even _feels_ just like a shingle. They respond by becoming horribly offended, or worse, they somehow take his as evidence that you’re unsympathetic to their toddler’s nut allergy. I can’t stand those people. I’ve had two different individuals “swear” to me that “tempeh bacon” tastes _just like_ real bacon, and that I would be surprised to learn it wasn’t real bacon. A person would have to be insane to actually believe that. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/209 "2015-11-02T16:26:39Z")
All of you, for getting the Gilbert and Sullivan ditty “I’ve got a little list” stuck in my head. _As some day it may happen that a victim must be found, I’ve got a little list — I’ve got a little list Of society offenders who might well be underground, And who never would be missed — who never would be missed! There’s the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs — All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs — All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat — All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that — And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist — They’d none of 'em be missed — they’d none of 'em be missed!_ [[link to full lyrics](http://lyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Gilbert_And_Sullivan:As_Some_Day_It_May_Happen)] and I’ll also throw in my favorite updated version as sung by Eric Idle \*\*From The Mikado. By William Gilbert and Arthur Sullivan, with additional lyrics by Eric Idle. Sung by Eric Idle and the Chorus. \*\* \*If someday it may happen that a victim must be found I’ve got a little list, I’ve got a little list Of society’s offenders who may well be underground And who never would be missed, they never would be missed. There’s interior designers, window dressers and that sort And grubbers who retire in strings the minute they get caught Or those who have their noses pierces, or men who die their hair Or idiots who host chat shows and disc jockeys everywhere And customs men who fumbling through your underwear insist They’d none of them be missed, they’ll none of them be missed. \* [[link to full lyrics](http://www.montypython.net/scripts/EI-littlelist.php)] ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/210 "2015-11-02T17:51:18Z")
**Ann Hedonia** , I realize there may not be a copyright issue with these pieces, but board guidelines still request that people not post the entire lyrics to songs here. I’ve edited the post and provided links so people can still find them in their entirety. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/211 "2015-11-02T18:05:12Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I tore a new one for the person who was using the handicap stall as a phone booth while I was standing there, full cast on my arm and having to pee. “If you’re not handicapped in there, please get out!” She looked at me and said “Well, I never saw a handicapped person in here before.” Your arm in a cast makes you handicapped? Whatever, there’s a reason the line to the women’s loo is always so fucking long. And it has to do with you fucking around and doing all kinds of rubbish in there, like yapping to each other and yapping on the phone, instead of doing what you went there to do and clear out when you’re done. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/212 "2015-11-02T18:10:57Z")
My arm was bent at the elbow with a full cast and I couldn’t use it. I needed the bars in the handicapped stall to help me stand up after peeing. You need something to grab in order to stand up with one good arm. If you don’t believe me, try it sometime. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/213 "2015-11-02T18:34:58Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > meh. I do that when I feel like it. Fuck the imaginary handicapped person who’s nowhere in sight. This is the reasoning that just about every-single-person who chooses to use the handicap stall seems to have. For one thing, there has _never_ been a handicapped person “in sight” any of the times that any of the perfectly able-bodied men chose their stall. At least not in my experience. _We get there while the stall is being used!_ That’s a silly argument anyway, no one is going to knowingly take a handicapped person’s place in an accessible stall. Or at least extremely few people. What is much, much _much_ more common is the rationalization that takes place when they arrive and see no one else using it. The handicap stalls are stalls of necessity (or really should be considered as such). For **everyone**. For the able-bodied, they become necessary when no other stalls (or urinals) are available. For certain disabled individuals, the stalls are necessary every single time. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/214 "2015-11-02T19:58:08Z")
Whether it’s childbirth, menses, or even just plain toileting necessities: Men who think they know what women go through. I do appreciate those who don’t close their eyes to the whole nightmare, but there’s no amount of empathy that can truly comprehend the added hassle. And 1000x more so for men who think they know how we _should_ be able to get through it in a way that that is less inconvenient -\* for them.\* Innocently helpful they are. Ummm hmmmm. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/215 "2015-11-02T20:04:22Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Whether it’s childbirth, menses, or even just plain toileting necessities: > > Men who think they know what women go through. I do appreciate those who don’t close their eyes to the whole nightmare, but there’s no amount of empathy that can truly comprehend the added hassle. > > And 1000x more so for men who think they know how we _should_ be able to get through it in a way that that is less inconvenient -\* for them.\* Innocently helpful they are. Ummm hmmmm. In that same vein: pregnant women or new mothers who overshare. I fully get that this is my issue, not theirs, and I have no right to ask them to stop. But I’d really rather not hear about their epidurals, the last time the baby had explosive diarrhea all over their work clothes, the interesting substances that emanated from their nether regions today, or any other topic that should ideally be discussed only with one’s doctor, one’s spouse, and one’s closest of friends or family members. It seems like some women, when they become mothers, become convinced that the whole world wants to hear the intimate biological details of their lives. There’s a reason I don’t have kids. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/216 "2015-11-02T20:09:44Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > The handicap stalls are stalls of necessity (or really should be considered as such). For **everyone**. For the able-bodied, they become necessary when no other stalls (or urinals) are available. For certain disabled individuals, the stalls are necessary every single time. Thats a pretty reasonable take on it. As a general rule I won’t use a handicapped stall unless all other stalls are full AND if I don’t go NOW there’s gonna be bad things happening in my pants. At which point I will. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/217 "2015-11-02T20:15:14Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > . . . It seems like some women, when they become mothers, become convinced that the whole world wants to hear the intimate biological details of their lives. > > . . . Should read: It seems like some women, when they become mothers, become inundated, engulfed, and subsumed by the intimate biological details of their offspring and personal physical recovery, and have absolutely nothing else to talk about because they haven’t seen a movie or so much as a newspaper in eight months. There you go. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/218 "2015-11-02T20:17:50Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > And 1000x more so for men who think they know how we _should_ be able to get through it in a way that that is less inconvenient -\* for them.\* Innocently helpful they are. Ummm hmmmm. Well, that’s because you haven’t been properly mansplained about such issues 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/219 "2015-11-02T20:27:18Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Whether it’s childbirth, menses, or even just plain toileting necessities: > > Men who think they know what women go through. I do appreciate those who don’t close their eyes to the whole nightmare, but there’s no amount of empathy that can truly comprehend the added hassle. > > And 1000x more so for men who think they know how we _should_ be able to get through it in a way that that is less inconvenient -\* for them.\* Innocently helpful they are. Ummm hmmmm. So how do you explain male gynecologists and obstetricians? Plus is your menses the same as the next womans menses? ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/220 "2015-11-02T20:33:29Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > So how do you explain male gynecologists and obstetricians? A doctor can successfully treat someone who has had a heart attack without ever having had one, or knowing exactly what it feels like, or understanding the emotional complications that a person can suffer after surviving such an experience. So I’m not sure I understand your question, here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982.md?page=12)