# What "innocent" group of people can you simply not stand?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 28, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982 "2015-10-28T16:27:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/61 "2015-10-29T05:42:29Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> An apartment is a home too. With stuff that needs fixing from time to time.

But then you can always call Maintenance. A lot of landlords and apartment managers don’t want their tenants doing _even the slightest most trivial maintenance_ beyond routine cleaning. My apartment manager says I’m not even supposed to change a burned out light bulb. At my last apartment, we could call Maintenance to change the air filters and fluorescent tubes, although they’d charge you for the tubes. (My current apartment doesn’t have air filters or tubes.)

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/62 "2015-10-29T05:51:06Z")

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Those who think the worst human serial killer is worth more and has more value than my dog.

People who think there is no responsibility to the freedom they have.

Anybody who does not think roadrunner cartoons are the best.

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/63 "2015-10-29T06:38:17Z")

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Bicycle riders who think traffic laws don’t apply to them. And who ride their bikes on the sidewalks. And expect me to watch out for them. Especially for that turd devourer who nearly ran over me on Artesia Boulevard in 1997 and yelled "Watch out!"instead of slowing down.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/64 "2015-10-29T06:44:57Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> People who think there is no responsibility to the freedom they have.

+1  
Liburals?! :mad:

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/65 "2015-10-29T10:49:43Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> Her: I’m just not a technical person. \<giggle\>. Could you do this for me?

“I’m not a technical person” should be banned from the language of all working adults. Either you can do it, and you can keep your job; or you’re willing to learn it, and you can keep your job; or you need to be doing something non-technical like cleaning my house. It would be ridiculous if I said, “I’m just not a housecleaning person. \<giggle\>” and expected that to fly. I don’t like to do it, but goddamit it, I do. Suck it up, buttercup.

> [@phreesh](#):
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> I don’t suffer from any allergies or food issues and I don’t really believe you do either unless I see hard evidence. It is my completely unfair believe that most people bitch about their food reactions when it’s all in their heads. Sure, those diseases exist, but (and I get that this is all my issue) I just don’t think they affect that many people.
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> While I’m at it, can I please express frustration at nut allergies? I get this is a serious thing, but do we really have to change the way everyone in the world eats to accommodate a tiny percentage of people? People get killed by cars every minute. Do we ban parents from bringing cars to school or to work?

Can I just show you my epi-pen instead of having to eat a Toblerone bar? Because yummy as the Toblerone bar is, I don’t want to risk death.

I am conflicted about the huge changes to how nut allergies are handled in the country now. One the one hand, it’s much easier to be a kid with nut allergies, since teachers and so on have training. On the other hand, growing up in an era where no one knew what the hell I was on about, made me very, very careful, and very self-sufficient at a young age. It sounds like kids are not taught to be so careful now (since mum and dad are hovering) even though there is way more available information thanks to the internet.

Also, part of me thinks, if your kid is so sensitive that peanut dust or the kid eating a PB&J next to him/her is a problem, then maybe public school isn’t for him or her. Real life doesn’t work like that. Your coworkers will not, not bring in Thai leftovers because you’re allergic. OTOH…they’re kids, and school is necessary.

It’s a quandary.

But I join your pitting on the food faddists claiming an allergy. That’s not an allergy, people, that’s a neurosis.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/66 "2015-10-29T11:06:49Z")

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One last one: people who are dicks about friendly competition.

Dude at work with a beard that looks like pubes came over and said in a voice dripping with sarcasm and derision that my team’s Halloween decor looks like a kids’ party, and that it’s Halloween and we have to be _scary_. Dumbass’s own team didn’t go scary last year or two years prior to that. There’s always at least one team that doesn’t go scary, because we have 1- and 2-year-olds who come in to trick-or-treat. Those scary decorations scare the crap out of some of those kids, and it’s nice to have a few departments that don’t look like a cheap haunted house attraction for them to hang out in.

I’m fine with teasing, BTW. One of the software engineers came by and asked what was scary about our theme. So one of our guys flew the remote-controlled shark balloon at him while I hummed the theme from _Jaws_. We all had a good laugh. 😃 One of the PMs asked me the same question, and I told him that we’re going to put fake medical waste all over the floor. And we all laughed. But those were good-natured teasing.

(Nothing against scary decorations, BTW. When I’ve decorated for grown-up Halloween parties, we’ve done some really sick stuff. But no kids were there. Kids aren’t always taught about “pretend”, or they don’t get it when confronted with the guillotine decoration complete with head tumbling off.)

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/67 "2015-10-29T11:50:00Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> But then you can always call Maintenance. A lot of landlords and apartment managers don’t want their tenants doing _even the slightest most trivial maintenance_ beyond routine cleaning. My apartment manager says I’m not even supposed to change a burned out light bulb. At my last apartment, we could call Maintenance to change the air filters and fluorescent tubes, although they’d charge you for the tubes. (My current apartment doesn’t have air filters or tubes.)

Oh God do I always have to explain everything to everyone?

[God: Yes, you do.]

“Home” does not equal “house” in meaning. That was an error of the original poster to whom I responded. It’s a genuine error. You can look it up, if you have the inclination.

But you want to take that poster’s side?

Cool. You are also wrong to say that an apartment owner can call maintenance to get things fixed. No. Go sit in your wrong box.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/68 "2015-10-29T12:06:12Z")

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Whiny men. Can’t stand whiners, but when it’s a guy doing it, brings my teeth on edge.

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**Author:** ![BrightSunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@BrightSunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightSunshine)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/69 "2015-10-29T12:09:53Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> Oh God do I always have to explain everything to everyone?
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> [God: Yes, you do.]
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> “Home” does not equal “house” in meaning. That was an error of the original poster to whom I responded. It’s a genuine error. You can look it up, if you have the inclination.
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> But you want to take that poster’s side?
> 
> Cool. You are also wrong to say that an apartment owner can call maintenance to get things fixed. No. Go sit in your wrong box.

Are you from the US? In the US apartments are not owned. When it’s a multi-dwelling structure (highrise or otherwise) that’s owner-occupied, it’s called a condo, townhouse, or co-op. If you don’t believe me go to [realtor.com](http://realtor.com) and check. Under “Homes for sale”, there is not a category called “apartments”. The previous posters are not in error. You are.

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**Author:** ![yo\_han\_go](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yo_han_go/32/130_2.png) [@yo\_han\_go](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yo_han_go)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/70 "2015-10-29T12:22:34Z")

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- Overenergetic people, who throw their energy excess in random directions
- Egomaniacs
- People who learned nothing from history
- Loud People
- Pavement (or worse, road) dreamwalkers
- Porsche owners

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/71 "2015-10-29T12:30:29Z")

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People who can’t type. Not all of them. Just the ones who work in occupations that require them to enter my details into a computer as I watch on.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/72 "2015-10-29T12:37:26Z")

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> [@BrightSunshine](#):
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> Are you from the US? In the US apartments are not owned. When it’s a multi-dwelling structure (highrise or otherwise) that’s owner-occupied, it’s called a condo, townhouse, or co-op. If you don’t believe me go to [realtor.com](http://realtor.com) and check. Under “Homes for sale”, there is not a category called “apartments”. The previous posters are not in error. You are.

So this US company is also wrong? And a hundred others like them?

> **[New York City Real Estate, Apartments and Condos](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/apartments-for-sale)**
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> New York City Real Estate. View 10,000+ NYC apartments, condos, lofts and no fee rentals. Your guide to New York real estate and apartments.

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**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/73 "2015-10-29T12:41:39Z")

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I think people posting in this thread should keep in mind the OP’s specification of “innocent.”

With that in mind, I nominate old people. They’ve done nothing wrong; everyone gets old. But it’s their slowness that drives me crazy. The old lady in the supermarket checkout lane who waits to be told her total, and only then, slowly and tremulously, draws out her purse, sets it down, opens it up, _slowly_ rummages through it, looking for and drawing out individual bills and coins. The old guy with the gait impairment who shuffles around in the buffet line, taking at least 5x as long as I would take to put food on his plate. On an intellectual level I know they can’t help it, and I shudder to think that’s going to be me someday, but I can’t keep from internally yelling “MOVE!”

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/74 "2015-10-29T12:42:58Z")

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And anyway why would you deliberately choose to dumb yourself down by assuming that everything is English related to the USA only?

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**Author:** ![BrightSunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@BrightSunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightSunshine)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/75 "2015-10-29T12:51:09Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> So this US company is also wrong? And a hundred others like them?
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> [New York City Apartments for Sale | CityRealty](https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/apartments-for-sale)

All of the listings say condo or co-op or townhouse. There is no “apartment” category. This site is clearly geared towards international buyers who may be unfamiliar with the technology.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/76 "2015-10-29T12:53:48Z")

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People are unfocused, non-linear, attention-deficit thinkers. They can’t help the way their minds are wired, but good gawd, sometimes I wish they would die.

These are the people who:

- can’t communicate without including extraneous details
- can’t communicate without omitting critical details that provide much needed context
- bounce from idea to idea in a single breath, with no common chord to connect them
- always try to multitask even though they suck at it
- can’t prioritize thoughts so that the truly important ideas get more attention than trivialities
- can’t tell (or don’t care) when people are zoning out or lost
- can’t tell (or don’t care) that they are wasting everyone’s time with their inefficient way of being

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**Author:** ![BrightSunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@BrightSunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightSunshine)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/77 "2015-10-29T12:59:37Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> And anyway why would you deliberately choose to dumb yourself down by assuming that everything is English related to the USA only?

You attacked someone for being wrong, when they are not wrong at all in the country where they live, in the country which hosts this site, and in the country where most of the participants of this forum reside.

On the topic of this thread, I can’t stand people who go to a different country and maintains that everything people do there is wrong because it’s not the same as in their native country. Again not sure if innocent, or pompous and arrogant.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/78 "2015-10-29T13:04:16Z")

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> [@BrightSunshine](#):
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> You attacked someone for being wrong, when they are not wrong at all in the country where they live, in the country which hosts this site, and in the country where most of the participants of this forum reside.
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> On the topic of this thread, I can’t stand people who go to a different country and maintains that everything people do there is wrong because it’s not the same as in their native country. Again not sure if innocent, or pompous and arrogant.

I “attacked” someone? That wasn’t an attack. I was pointing out that someone was wrong on the internet.

“Home” doesn’t have the same meaning as “house”. Or does it where you come from?

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**Author:** ![BrightSunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b3f665/32.png) [@BrightSunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightSunshine)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/79 "2015-10-29T13:04:34Z")

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> [@BrightSunshine](#):
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> All of the listings say condo or co-op or townhouse. There is no “apartment” category. This site is clearly geared towards international buyers who may be unfamiliar with the technology.

I meant terminology, not technology. Not enough caffeine.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-innocent-group-of-people-can-you-simply-not-stand/735982/80 "2015-10-29T13:05:16Z")

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> [@Eliahna](#):
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> People who can’t type. Not all of them. Just the ones who work in occupations that require them to enter my details into a computer as I watch on.

Can we add people who are completely unable to copy someone else’s name correctly when it’s right in front of them? I don’t mean people who get confused about unusual name structures, but people who try to copy “John Doe” and turn it into “Ann Dewar”.

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