# What Inspired Henry Ford To Develop The V-8 Engine?

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**Created:** [August 19, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798 "2010-08-19T22:04:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798/1 "2010-08-19T22:04:13Z")

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In an earlier thread, I learned that Henry Ford bitterly opposed his son’s (Edsel Ford) plans to develop an inline 6-cylinder engine. Supposedly, Henry was satisfied with his inline 4 cylinder engine-so why the V-\*?  
In amny ways, Ford’s V-8 was a technological breakthrough-it was the first mass-produced V-8 in the world (Lancia had built a V-8 in 1911, but it wasa low volume, hand-built engine. Ford was the first to make a reasonably priced V-8 engine, available in a low-priced car.  
Ford liked simple designs, and like a good engineer, he liked 4-cylinder engines (they were simple and cheap to assemble).  
So why the V-8? Was it done so he could leapfrog GM?

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798/2 "2010-08-19T23:24:08Z")

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I’ve heard that many automobile engineers claimed a V-8 would be inherently impossible to balance; Ford said they didn’t know what they were talking about and built the V-8 largely just to prove the naysayers wrong. Possible or even probably an urban legend but I’ve heard it from a ton of people.

How many people know that Chevy built a V-8 back in the 1920s?

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798/3 "2010-08-20T01:06:10Z")

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Ford’s great leap with the V-8 was that its cylinders and crankcase were all one piece. Earlier V-8’s such as Cadillac’s had cylinders and crankcases and water jackets as separate pieces bolted together.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798/4 "2010-08-20T02:57:49Z")

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> I’ve heard that many automobile engineers claimed a V-8 would be inherently impossible to balance; Ford said they didn’t know what they were talking about and built the V-8 largely just to prove the naysayers wrong. Possible or even probably an urban legend but I’ve heard it from a ton of people.

the first “mass produced” V8 on these shores was the 1914 Cadillac engine, which had a flat-plane crankshaft (basically an inline-4 crank with the crankpins able to accomodate a pair of connecting rods.) Like an I4, a flat-plane V8 is in primary balance but not in secondary balance. It wasn’t until the cross-plane crankshaft was developed where V8s were both in primary and secondary balance.

as far as I know, all road-going V8s today are cross-plane, with the exception of Ferrari V8s which remain flat-plane.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798/5 "2010-08-20T06:29:00Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I’ve heard that many automobile engineers claimed a V-8 would be inherently impossible to balance; Ford said they didn’t know what they were talking about and built the V-8 largely just to prove the naysayers wrong. Possible or even probably an urban legend but I’ve heard it from a ton of people.

Those people are cretins.

Glenn Hammond Curtiss [built a V8 motorcycle and set a land speed record of 136.3 mph](http://big-diesel.blogspot.com/2010/06/fastest-man-on-erth-with-curtiss-v8.html) - in 1907. The record was not beat by any vehicle for 11 years, and it was 23 years before it was beat by another motorcycle.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798/6 "2010-08-26T02:33:52Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> > I’ve heard that many automobile engineers claimed a V-8 would be inherently impossible to balance; Ford said they didn’t know what they were talking about and built the V-8 largely just to prove the naysayers wrong. Possible or even probably an urban legend but I’ve heard it from a ton of people.
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> Those people are cretins.
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> Glenn Hammond Curtiss [built a V8 motorcycle and set a land speed record of 136.3 mph](http://big-diesel.blogspot.com/2010/06/fastest-man-on-erth-with-curtiss-v8.html) - in 1907. The record was not beat by any vehicle for 11 years, and it was 23 years before it was beat by another motorcycle.

I did say the story was probably an urban legend. Cretin seems a little judgmental.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-inspired-henry-ford-to-develop-the-v-8-engine/550798/7 "2010-08-26T04:48:27Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> > Glenn Hammond Curtiss [built a V8 motorcycle and set a land speed record of 136.3 mph](http://big-diesel.blogspot.com/2010/06/fastest-man-on-erth-with-curtiss-v8.html) - in 1907. The record was not beat by any vehicle for 11 years, and it was 23 years before it was beat by another motorcycle.
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> I did say the story was probably an urban legend. Cretin seems a little judgmental.

Really?

Something being talked of as “impossible” when that thing had been accomplished by one of the greatest engineers who ever lived seven years earlier? Who set a record that was not beaten for 23 years?

What would you call it?

I am annoyed at Curtiss’ accomplishments being ignored, so that probably influenced my choice of words. “Ignoramuses” would probably be more polite.
