# What is "1488" for American Neo-Nazis? (Synagogue shooter today)

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606 "2018-10-27T21:44:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/1 "2018-10-27T21:44:19Z")

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See query. I read (lost cite) something about “1488” written somewhere on a weapon of the scumbag, I think, which the newspaper helpfully told me was a “well-known symbol for white supremacists” but left it at that.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/2 "2018-10-27T21:47:54Z")

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First hit on Google

> **[1488](https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/1488)**
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> 1488: 14 words and the 8th letter of the alphabet. Combined this creates a powerful symbol for white supremacists. Find out the true meaning of these numbers.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/3 "2018-10-27T22:11:24Z")

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14 = 14 words “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”

88 = 8th letter of the alphabet, which is H. So Heil Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/4 "2018-10-28T10:47:01Z")

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For what it’s worth, this odd letter/number thing also occurs in the name of the UK Neo-Nazi group Combat 18.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/5 "2018-10-28T16:54:20Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> For what it’s worth, this odd letter/number thing also occurs in the name of the UK Neo-Nazi group Combat 18.
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I wonder how much influence the fact Germany’s most famous artillery piece in WW2 was also known as the 88 had in that.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/6 "2018-10-28T17:59:29Z")

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> [@Asuka](#):
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> I wonder how much influence the fact Germany’s most famous artillery piece in WW2 was also known as the 88 had in that.

None. If you see where it comes from, it’s obviously a coincidence. And it’s not like neo Nazis are students of history.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/7 "2018-10-29T05:20:43Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> None. If you see where it comes from, it’s obviously a coincidence. And it’s not like neo Nazis are students of history.

If they were, they would know that the Nazis lost, thus are a bunch of losers.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/9 "2018-10-29T08:32:58Z")

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spam reported

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-1488-for-american-neo-nazis-synagogue-shooter-today/823606/10 "2018-10-29T13:04:22Z")

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They already know. It’s why they’re so vicious.
