# What is a bad movie that you loved?

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**Created:** [March 30, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363 "2015-03-30T20:26:51Z")\
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_Highlander: Endgame._ Although ‘love’ is a bit strong, I do enjoy watching Bruce Payne chew the scenery, chomp chomp chomp. And I understand _Dune_ is not to everyone’s taste, but that’s one I really do love. It’s among my favourites.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/22 "2015-03-31T00:52:34Z")

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Mine go back quite a few years, but I see so few movies anymore, any answer I give about a movie would go back quite a few years.

My two favorite bad movies – and they _are_ bad – would be _All the Marbles_, with Peter Falk serving as the manager for two women wrestlers, and _The Legend of Billie Jean_ with Helen Slater not as Supergirl, yet still fighting for truth, justices, and all that jazz.

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**Last action hero** , which gets 37% on RottenTomatoes. I actually thought it was one of Arnie’s best. An insightful parody of the genre, with wistful earnestness along with the betrayal of same, at its heart.

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**Daredevil** , the original cut. I don’t even like the director’s cut, which really makes me nuts.

Many bad movies are funny, like Wicker Man(recent) or Battlefield Earth, but they don’t really count.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Howard the Duck

That’s the first one that came to mind. I was a back road somewhere and stopped in at a Gas-n-Go-type Mart–the cashier was watching Howard The Duck on a portable TV. What should’ve been a 10 minute stop lasted almost half an hour.

> [@Anon01245](#):
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> For me: I really liked John Carter.

Me too. I think it’s partly because of Lynn Colllins. 😃

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/26 "2015-03-31T02:18:05Z")

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_Alien from LA  
The Day After Tomorrow  
Tommy  
The Last Action Hero_ (I love metafiction)

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/27 "2015-03-31T02:44:12Z")

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Does _Twister_ count as a bad movie? I love that movie, and will watch it every chance I get.

“Ya got full coverage on that truck?”  
“Liability only”

Hee.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/28 "2015-03-31T02:48:35Z")

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The “Sharknado” movies. Part 2 was especially great because of all the 1980s celebrities who were extras; my favorite was ZZ Top on the subway. 😛

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**Meet the Feebles**

I’m not usually fan of graphic, shocking humor, but when it’s behind-the-scenes with a theater troupe of puppets, there’s something about the combination that makes me laugh. This is, essentially, an X-rated _Muppet Show_.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/30 "2015-03-31T02:57:55Z")

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Traxx

Also, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/31 "2015-03-31T02:59:06Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I don’t like any bad movies, because if I enjoy a movie, that means it’s good.

Agreed. And I’ll have reasons and am more than ready to defend with those reasons films that are often derided.

Admittedly, sometimes that defense may just be, “It was okay. It did nothing to offend me.”( See The Happening) But then I’ve never been one to let gaping plot holes bother me. Even if it weren’t an homage, the virus downloaded in Independence Day wouldn’t bother me at all.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/32 "2015-03-31T03:20:57Z")

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_The Core_ is utterly preposterous from beginning to end, but I just love it. One thing it gets big points for, in my opinion, is…no, wait, two things it gets big points for are 1. Not mating the male and female leads at the end, and 2. Hanging a big ol’ lampshade on the super-techno-stuff it needs to make the story work (“I call it ‘unobtainium’.”), and, no, wait, there were three things, and the third is 3. Letting Stanley Tucci overact most delightfully.

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\*Sins of the Fleshapoids  
Ascension of the Demonoids  
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The V.I.Ps, mainly starring Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. Liz looks like a mattress with a string tied around the middle. Burton looks drunk. Much angst and huffing and puffing as Liz tries to run off with her gigolo boyfriend, and there are several other sub-plots in the movie with some other, good actors.

The Oscar, a ludicrous rags to riches showbiz story about one Hymie Kelly. Starring Stephen Boyd and a whole lot of square 50’s actors.

Diamond Head with Yvette Mimeux fighting her brother Charlton Heston, the Pineapple King of Hawaii, over her relationship with a ‘native’

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/35 "2015-03-31T07:44:21Z")

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Quite a few listed here are less heard of cult movies, I wouldn’t count them as bad. Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, for instance, a parody of bad action movies. Sure, not a great budget for the first one.

As for John Carter, that’s only bad if you believe the critics and the box office are right. Same for Last Action Hero. Vastly underrated. Under that criteria, The Blues Brothers, Donnie Darko, Fight Club, Office Space, The Big leobowski, Shawshank Redemption, Bladerunner, Vertigo, Citizen Kane and Wizard of Oz are all bad movies.

I’m trying to think if I like an actual bad movie, per se. I quite like Happy Gilmore, which people would mark as bad because of Adam Sandler, though I’d argue that as his first movie at least had some merit.

Bad Boy Bubby. Well, hardly like it. There’s scenes in the first 15 minutes that I don’t like, so I skip that.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/36 "2015-03-31T07:56:18Z")

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Plan Nine from Outer Space.

Still the only dvd I’ve ever watched that, the moment it ended, I \*immediately \*watched again. So wondrously, tremendously, mind-bogglingly inept in every conceivable aspect of the motion-picture-making process that I was floored. Helpless with laughter throughout. Ed Wood, you RULE!

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/37 "2015-03-31T10:47:58Z")

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Eh, I grew up watching Monstervision on TNT—my definition of “bad” is kind of skewed. If a movie is entertaining, and honestly accomplishes what it sets out to do, I can easily love it. Even if the movie fails, but fails spectacularly enough, I can still easily get enough of a laugh out of it to consider it a favorite and an old friend.

I guess, really, my own “favorite” films that come close to what the OP has in mind are ones that I liked—at least well enough—but seem to get a baffling amount of vitriol from everyone else, from my point of view anyway. _Daredevil_, for one, as **Mahaloth** mentions. _X3_, The Star Wars prequels, _GI Joe: The Movie_ (the 80s cartoon)—ah! Now _that_ one might be the kicker. I’ve _never_ heard of anyone else who unreservedly liked that one, _including_ any of the production staff. I’d have thought there’d be more fans at the intersection of Lovecraftian/Howardian weird fiction, Japanese animation, and Reagan-era military sci-fi action. But, hell, I’ve never been able to bring myself to try cheese on an apple pie—who can say what combinations will or won’t be appetizing to other people?

Oh, and my biggest problem with _John Carter_—aside from that marketing campaign? You spend a quarter of a billion dollars making the thing, and you can’t tint the rocks and dirt a _little_ pinker in post production? Or even just film someplace where [they’re _already_](https://catbirdinjordan.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/pb086328.jpg) [red](http://www.myphotocreations.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/arizona-monument-photography.jpg)? _Jeez_.

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“Red Dawn”, the original, Patrick Swayze version. Just a masterpiece of late period Cold War paranoia propaganda. Whenever I find it on tv I have to watch it.

WOLVERIIIIINES!!

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**John Carter** – Bad??  
as a fan of Edgar Rice Burroughs, I loved John Carter. Great flick, and I’m sorry it didn’t get the chance for the sequels. I would’ve loved _John Carter and the Gods of Mars_, dammit.

And don’t complain about the budget – despite what you may have been told or surmised, it didn’t go over budget. See Michael Sellers’ website, or his book _John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood_ for more detail than you wanted to know.

Bad movies I love:

**Starship Troopers** – I can’t think of another movie where the gap – scientific, authorial, philosophic, intelligence, whatever you want – between the subject matter and the movie was so huge. The scientific inaccuracies of the movie were egregious! The utter lack of common sense by the characters was abysmal! The departure from Heinlein’s narrative were unforgivable! The philosophical viewpoint was about 180 degrees from that of the book!  
But it looks freakin’ gorgeous on-screen, and it moves at lightspeed with utterly black comedy.  
I also have a soft spot for the two “worst films”, **Robot Monster** and **Plan Nine from Outer Space**. For one thing, they got made. Having helmed my own radio play production through the reefs of low budget production, costly facilities, and general apathy, I have to applaud any film that gets made. In addition, the films were ambitious on some points, and they look better than they have a right to – at least it;'s not muddy color and rotten sound, like Attack of the Eye Creatures\* or _Tales from the Past_.

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Joe Dirt.
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> I thought it had a lot of funny parts and an exceedingly sweet story

I love _Joe Dirt_! I quote it all the time IRL, almost always to blank, confused stares, but I don’t care!

I will contribute _Freddy Got Fingered_, and _UHF_. Both works of pure twisted genius in their own ways.

The _Fast and the Furious_ movies are amazing examples of what they are; they’re practically their own genre by now.

I really enjoyed _MacGruber_. I don’t watch SNL so I wasn’t familiar with the character, but this movie was right in my wheelhouse.

And then there is the king of terrible, awesome (or terribly awesome!) movies: _Point Break_.

_Road House_ is almost as good, but lacks the Keanu Reeves element that would really push it over the shitty top.  
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