# What is a bad movie that you loved? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363 "2015-03-30T20:26:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/81 "2015-04-01T12:35:04Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > My favorite bad movie is _The Ten Commandments_ with Charleton Heston. I consider it bad because the costuming is awful, the overacting atrocious, and the embellishments to the basic story laughable. John Derek (Joshua) is the worst of a bad lot of scenery chewers. > > I always take a front row seat when it comes around every Easter/Passover. I wouldn’t call it a “bad movie” myself. It’s Pageantry. In fact, it’s Pageantry Writ Large. You don’t expect good acting or good scripting from something like that, you expect Tableaus. And I’ll take issue with your claim of Bad Costumes - I think the costumes and the scenery excellent. Much of it is due to the conceptual art of Arnold Friberg (who died only five years ago). Friberg not only did conceptual art for The Ten Commandments, and some “inspirational” and Western art, he did the paintings that hang in the LDS Visitor’s Center in Salt Lake City, and the ones used to illustrate the Book of Mormon. If you flip through that edition of the BoM that the missionaries hand you, or you vacation in Salt Lake City and visit Temple Square, you’ll get a strong Ten Commandments vibe from the impressively robed Nephites and Lamanites, and the rustic yet tough-cool garb of the people, where even the kids wear leather headbands and wrist strengtheners. [https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;\_ylt=AwrBT7p15BtVRi8AB6FXNyoA;\_ylu=X3oDMTEzZ252MHZqBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVklQNjEwXzEEc2VjA3Nj?p=Arnold+Friberg&fr=yfp-t-252](https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrBT7p15BtVRi8AB6FXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZ252MHZqBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVklQNjEwXzEEc2VjA3Nj?p=Arnold+Friberg&fr=yfp-t-252) > **[Arnold Friberg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Friberg)** > > Arnold Friberg (December 21, 1913 – July 1, 2010) was an American illustrator and painter noted for his religious and patriotic works. He is perhaps best known for his 1975 painting The Prayer at Valley Forge, a depiction of George Washington praying at Valley Forge. He is also well known for his 15 "pre-visualization" paintings for the Cecil B. DeMille film The Ten Commandments which were used to promote the film worldwide and for which he received an Academy Award nomination. > He has been admit... [http://www.deseretnews.com/top/704/0/Arnold-Fribergs-religious-paintings.html](http://www.deseretnews.com/top/704/0/Arnold-Fribergs-religious-paintings.html) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/82 "2015-04-01T12:44:07Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I wouldn’t call it a “bad movie” myself. It’s Pageantry. In fact, it’s Pageantry Writ Large. You don’t expect good acting or good scripting from something like that, you expect Tableaus. … That’s close to suggesting a big enough and splashy enough movie can’t be bad, and I disagree. They can be among the worst. OTOH, they can be very good. Spartacus, for example, is a very fine movie IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/83 "2015-04-01T12:46:48Z")
> [@Rocketeer](#): > > Letting Stanley Tucci overact most delightfully. On that note: **Undercover Blues**. Dennis Quaid and Kathleen Turner goof around and deliver various amusing quips while Stanley Tucci and Fiona Shaw - two of the finest character actors out there - compete for the Most Outrageous Fake Accent and Best Scenery Chewing awards. Personally I think Tucci wins both but it’s a close thing. “Mah nem ees MUERTE!” > [@smithsb](#): > > Please view Nick Cage in Drive Angry. Look at it as a parody of non-stop, “death by various weapons, fights, car chases, hot cars/babes, re-animation, devil-worship”. I look at it as “Ghost Rider 3”, only without the flaming head. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/84 "2015-04-01T12:46:49Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > That’s close to suggesting a big enough and splashy enough movie can’t be bad, and I disagree. They can be among the worst. > > OTOH, they can be very good. Spartacus, for example, is a very fine movie IMO. Spartacus isn’t pageantry, though. It’s a well-written flick, with a script by Dalton Trumbo. A very different beast. If your criteria are “Big Movie, Lots of People, Lots of Money. Very Long. Set Long Ago”, you need to look more carefully. **Spartacus** (and all those circa 1960 historical epics) and The Ten commandments aren’t remnotely similar films. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/85 "2015-04-01T13:02:01Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > And I’ll take issue with your claim of Bad Costumes - I think the costumes and the scenery excellent. The costuming and hair styles used have a distinct 1950s “I’m playing dress-up” quality to them, vs. any attempt to try to look 1200 BC authentic. Some remakes today appear to have a better authenticity quality to them, but I’m sure if I’m still around 40 years from now, those will look fake to me, too. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/86 "2015-04-01T13:29:21Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Spartacus isn’t pageantry, though. It’s a well-written flick, with a script by Dalton Trumbo. A very different beast. > If your criteria are “Big Movie, Lots of People, Lots of Money. Very Long. Set Long Ago”, you need to look more carefully. **Spartacus** (and all those circa 1960 historical epics) and The Ten commandments aren’t remnotely similar films. Of course they’re not, but Spartacus is big in Pageantry, with a huge supporting supporting cast, phalanxes of armies marching over the hillsides, etc. Everything is big and splashy. So, how does your definition of ‘pageantry’ differ from that? ---
**Author:** ![JerrySTL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e274bd/32.png) [@JerrySTL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerrySTL)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/87 "2015-04-01T13:41:07Z")
Another vote for **UHF**. If you like parodies, this is the movie for you. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/88 "2015-04-01T13:51:08Z")
**Out of Sight** and **Jackie Brown**. I love the Elmore Leonard novels, and really like the movie adaptations. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/89 "2015-04-01T14:01:41Z")
[Split Second](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105459/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_109) starring Rutger Hauer. I don’t think they missed a single cliche in this action-horror-sci fi melange. It works, though. It probably wouldn’t with anybody else in the lead role, but Rutger Hauer has an amazing ability to make schlock worth watching. ---
**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/90 "2015-04-01T14:29:55Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > I never did see what the beef was with Last Action Hero. I blame the kid. He was annoying. ---
**Author:** ![JustinC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justinc/32/8083_2.png) [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/91 "2015-04-01T14:33:21Z")
I recently watched ‘Wild Card’, after seeing it rated as 5.6·IMDb; 28%·Rotten Tomatoes, and 40%·Metacritic. So… with low expectations. I thought it was a laugh riot! A very, very silly parody of most of Jason Statham’s movies, probably along the lines of Last Boy Scout and Last Action Hero - both of which I also enjoyed. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/92 "2015-04-01T14:34:56Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Of course they’re not, but Spartacus is big in Pageantry, with a huge supporting supporting cast, phalanxes of armies marching over the hillsides, etc. Everything is big and splashy. > > So, how does your definition of ‘pageantry’ differ from that? Your definition of Pageantry is very different from mine. “Pageantry” is not synonymous with “costume drama”, which is how you seem to be using it. “Pageantry” means presenting iconic images that represent scenes from a story. I use the term as in “REligious pageant”. The Passion play at Oberammergau is Pageant, pure and simple. People go to it to see the scenes from the Dearth of Christ – the Triual, the Crucifiction, etc. Nobody bgoes to a Passion Play for the dialogue, or to see character development > **[Passion Play](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passion_Play)** > > The Passion Play or Easter pageant is a dramatic presentation depicting the Passion of Jesus: his trial, suffering and death. The viewing of and participation in Passion Plays is a traditional part of Lent in several Christian denominations, particularly in the Catholic and Evangelical traditions; as such Passion Plays are often ecumenical Christian productions. > Passion Plays have had a long and complex history involving faith and devotion, civic pageantry, religious and political censorship, ... The Ten Commandments is Pageant in this style. You go to see The Plagues and The Partinmg of the Red Sea and so forth. The dialogue isn’t really necessary. Spartacus is a whole different ball of wax. It’s not anything like a Passion Play ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/93 "2015-04-01T14:36:51Z")
STARSHIP TROOPERS best movie evah ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/94 "2015-04-01T14:43:11Z")
Another vote for _Attack of the Killer Tomatoes._ There is a scene wherein state policemen are firing shotguns at an unseen target, while tomatoes are rolled past them. “We can’t hold them back!” ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/95 "2015-04-01T15:40:21Z")
**Heartbreak Ridge.** “I’m the Ayatollah of Rock and Rollah!” **Dark City**. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/96 "2015-04-01T16:10:21Z")
I’m still looking for a copy of The Lost Continent. A yacht full of characters at odds (and a hold full of smuggled dynamite) gets snarled in the Sargasso Sea and finds prehistoric monsters and several trapped ships left over from the Spanish Armada, ruled by Teenage Pope Joffrey, who feeds people he doesn’t like to the Sarlacc, which he keeps in the basement of his flagship. We learn all this from a woman with enormous breasts (which spend the entire movie on the verge of falling out of her bodice) who escapes from Teenage Pope Joffrey’s harem and wants to join our modern day yacht people. Wonderfully, energetically brain damaged. One of the films made during that magical time when Hammer Films’ coffee supply seems to have been dosed with psychoactive drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/97 "2015-04-01T16:26:58Z")
Tell me more about the woman with enormous breasts. They will often make or break a movie, ---
**Author:** ![FasterThanMeerkats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/278dde/32.png) [@FasterThanMeerkats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FasterThanMeerkats)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/98 "2015-04-01T16:27:35Z")
Another vote for Starship Troopers. I love the book as well, but think they’re both great in their own way. A true movie rendition of the book is a pipe dream, “Join up now!” ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/99 "2015-04-01T16:36:45Z")
Spaced Invaders and Blind Fury are both very awesome movies even though Rotten Tomatoes doesn’t appear to agree. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/100 "2015-04-01T16:51:07Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Tell me more about the woman with enormous breasts. They will often make or break a movie, Weirdly enough, “The Lost Continent” was the first movie I ever saw where the breasts were kind of a distraction. On the yacht, we’ve got all this Peyton Place drama going on. Meanwhile, over at the Spanish Armada, we also have the Psycho Teen Pope, a Sarlacc, the Spanish Inquisition, and all this OTHER drama going on. And in between, we have these amazing sea monster puppets that occasionally attack boats, travelers, and each other. And then we have poor li’l Dana Gillespie and her Two Enormous Talents. And I can’t even remember any of her dialogue, because I spent every scene she was in staring at her chest and wondering if they were fiiiiiinally going to go teetering over the edge, so to speak. She may have been the greatest example of the Theiss Titillation Theory I’ve ever seen. Yeah, this movie had stuff happenin’ all OVER the place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363.md?page=6)