# What is a bad movie that you loved?

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**Created:** [March 30, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363 "2015-03-30T20:26:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
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I loved Groundhog Day; all of my friends hated it.

It seems to be making a comeback though.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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Out of curiosity I looked up Dana Gillespie. “Assets” aside, her real name is “Richenda Antoinette de Winterstein Gillespie” which is a helluva name. She was also the British Junior Water Skiing Champion, sang backup for David Bowie, was the original Mary Magdelene in _Jesus Christ Superstar_ and runs an annual blues festival on Mustique. Interesting life.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/123 "2015-04-02T17:30:14Z")

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> [@JerrySTL](#):
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> Another vote for **UHF**. If you like parodies, this is the movie for you.

I saw “UHF” when it came out, and didn’t like it all that much. I watched it again within the past couple of years, and loved it. The things in it are easy to do and get viewed now, thanks to You Tube.

As for pageantry, etc. making bad movies: “Heaven’s Gate”.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/124 "2015-04-02T20:38:00Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> **Starship Troopers** – I can’t think of another movie where the gap – scientific, authorial, philosophic, intelligence, whatever you want – between the subject matter and the movie was so huge. .

[Exit to Eden](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109758/?ref_=nv_sr_2). The main plot of the movie (2 cops follow a woman to an S&M-based island, hijinks ensue), and two of the main characters (the aforementioned 2 cops, played by Dan Aykroyd and Rosie O’Donnell), do not appear in the book at all. The book is about the relationship that develops between Dana Delany (whose breasts are the only redeeming quality of this film) and Paul Mercurio, which is pushed into the background in the film.

For my contribution to this thread, though, I have to go with [Street Fighter](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111301/?ref_=nv_sr_3), a film based off of the video game series. Raul Julia is truly extraordinary in it, with all the [chewed scenery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBc7yQXrP9c).

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/125 "2015-04-02T21:10:27Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Out of curiosity I looked up Dana Gillespie. “Assets” aside, her real name is “Richenda Antoinette de Winterstein Gillespie” which is a helluva name. She was also the British Junior Water Skiing Champion, sang backup for David Bowie, was the original Mary Magdelene in _Jesus Christ Superstar_ and runs an annual blues festival on Mustique. Interesting life.

Yup. In the sixties and seventies, she seems to have been on call at Hammer Studios for whenever they needed Huge Tracts Of Land. I also remember her distinctly for her amazing sideboob fur… garment… thing… as a cavewoman in The People That Time Forgot.

I used to feel sorry for Raul Julia, what with his last performance being in that awful movie. Turns out, so I am told, that his grandson wanted him to do it, and Julia knew he was dying anyway, and said, “Whatthehell?” and took the role.

Might explain his acting technique. He was usually more subtle.

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**Author:** ![JustinC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justinc/32/8083_2.png) [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/126 "2015-04-03T01:21:22Z")

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> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#):
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> I loved Groundhog Day; all of my friends hated it.
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> It seems to be making a comeback though.

😕 They hated it? It’s a wonderful film, very funny and makes you think. Also the script is superb, the camera work sublime, and it’s memorable. I loved it, too.

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Nasty Habits (which, despite the title, is not an adult film)

And while it is now basically a classic, Plan 9 is one of my reliable guilty pleasures.

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**Author:** ![nastynaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58f4c7/32.png) [@nastynaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nastynaven)\
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the first mortal kombat.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/129 "2015-04-03T11:37:15Z")

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> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#):
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> I loved Groundhog Day; all of my friends hated it.
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> It seems to be making a comeback though.

> [@JustinC](#):
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> 😕 They hated it? It’s a wonderful film, very funny and makes you think. Also the script is superb, the camera work sublime, and it’s memorable. I loved it, too.

Yeah, I don’t know anyone that doesn’t like “Groundhog Day”.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/130 "2015-04-03T12:49:53Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> Yeah, I don’t know anyone that doesn’t like “Groundhog Day”.

I don’t. Specifically, I don’t like Bill Murray. He’s irritating rather than funny and that has been my opinion since he first showed up on SNL.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/131 "2015-04-03T13:06:19Z")

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I remember even as a teen how bad\* Commando\* was. It may have been the first time I realized that gunfire and explosions can’t make a film great all by themselves.

But I enjoyed the flick. It was very…pure…in it’s mission.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/132 "2015-04-03T13:17:36Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> I don’t. Specifically, I don’t like Bill Murray. He’s irritating rather than funny and that has been my opinion since he first showed up on SNL.

I feel the same way about Bill Murray. Nevertheless, I have to admit that I liked **Groundhog Day** , possibly precisely because of his general character, which is how he starts out the film, and is transformed by his experience. I’ve been told that he’s good in **The Razor’s Edge** for the same reason, though I’ve never seen that film.

I agree with other people here, though – **Groundhog Day** is not by any stretch a "Bad Film\>

Bad Films are ones like **10,000 BC** , a truly abysmal film with gorgeous special effects. The problem is that, even if you allow for the blatant disregard for history and geography, it’s _still_ a Bad Film, and doesn’t make any logical sense even on its own terms.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/133 "2015-04-03T13:25:27Z")

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> [@nastynaven](#):
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> the first mortal kombat.

The first Mortal Kombat is awesome. It has just enough plot hanging on it to justify people fighting each other for an hour and a half. The only real weakness in the movie, imo, is Bridgett Wilson who is neither a great actor nor convincing in her combat scenes.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/134 "2015-04-03T13:35:04Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> I remember even as a teen how bad\* Commando\* was. It may have been the first time I realized that gunfire and explosions can’t make a film great all by themselves.
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> But I enjoyed the flick. It was very…pure…in it’s mission.

I loved Commando. I knew I was in for a ride as soon as I heard the hero’s name: John Matrix. And at that point, Arnie appears. Carrying something way too heavy. Yup, we are in for a ride, here.

We do not get characterization. We do not get deep truths. We do not get much in the way of pathos and bathos. In fact, what we get is pretty much “The Terminator,” but with more explosions, less drama, funnier dialogue, and a much more entertaining villain.

The Terminator is the better FILM, but Commando is self-parody to the ragged edge of actually being a comedy. And Rae Dawn Chong, of all people, winds up being the only sane person in the entire movie, and is utterly hilarious for it.

As for the definition of “bad film,” I always rather liked Ivan Stang’s turn of phrase, “Bulldada.” Bulldada is an art form. It is distinct from a simply bad movie.

In another thread around here, I griped about a movie that had no sense of timing or pacing. Stuff HAPPENS, sure, but every moment is robbed of any impact it might have had because despite all these worldshaking events, it is filmed in the same manner as Thanksgiving at your grandmother’s. If I don’t know any of your relatives, this film is BORING to me. And this is one of the factors that makes a crappy movie.

To make a beloved badfilm… bulldada, if you will… requires a magical combination of factors, that still defies analysis to some extent. But Ivan Stang hit one factor on the head: “Bulldada is badfilm that doesn’t know how bad it is.”

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Bresteses are _never_ a distraction. They are _always_ an enhancement to the cinematic experience.

Yes…anything with Adrienne Barbeau in it 😉

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> [@Enola\_Straight](#):
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> Yes…anything with Adrienne Barbeau in it 😉

My girlfriend cracked me up the other day by mentioning something about “Escape From New York, with Kurt Russell and Adrienne Barboobs.”

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> [@nastynaven](#):
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> the first mortal kombat.

> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> The first Mortal Kombat is awesome. It has just enough plot hanging on it to justify people fighting each other for an hour and a half. The only real weakness in the movie, imo, is Bridgett Wilson who is neither a great actor nor convincing in her combat scenes.

Screw that. The SECOND Mortal Kombat movie is where it’s at.

How many random and misplaced Kombatants can we fit into a movie? Plus the dude playing the baddie is sooooo bad (and so many pointless flips!). But fun as hell nonetheless.

No one has said it yet, but I love ALL Transformers movies. Kickass action, good CGI, shit getting blowed up…who cares about plot? I’m watchin this movie to have fun not see an Oscar winner.

That being said: The last one was almost too unbelievable for me

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I watch _Independence Day_ every chance I get (which is a lot), and even I know it sucks.

Me too. If you think of it as camp, all the absurdity works in it’s favor.

I also like _The Ref_.

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Last time I saw “Independence Day,” I found myself thinking, “You know, if you just edited Dennis Quaid out of this movie, you’d actually have a better movie.”

Although you’d have to rework the ending.

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[Gregory’s Girl.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory%27s_Girl) Loved it when it was on HBO the summer of 1983(?) Watched it over and over. Rewatched it recently and it is bad. Very vary bad.

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