# What is a bad movie that you loved? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363 "2015-03-30T20:26:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/161 "2015-04-05T02:55:23Z")
_Mom and Dad Save the World_. I forget about this movie until it comes on, and I always end up watching it. Some people just don’t like Jon Lovitz, but I don’t have that problem. This is probably his perfect role. ---
**Author:** ![MsKaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@MsKaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsKaren)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/162 "2015-04-05T04:38:40Z")
I like many of these films myself but must drop in with ‘The Stuff’ a Michael Moriarty film about killer yogurt. Of course any film he’s in is automatically good. I realize that most of his films and, of course, Law and Order are wonderful by anybody’s standards, and those films rank among my favorites. We are however talking “bad films.” "The Stuff’ has many of my other favorite character actors as well. Michael Moriarty also delivers, in response to ‘You’re not as dumb as you appear to be,’ the classic line ‘No one is as dumb as I appear to be.’ I also liked him in ‘Q’ which was about the return of Quetzalcoatl. I liked him in the creepy made for TV miniseries of Salem’s Lot. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/163 "2015-04-05T05:22:54Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > She married her _brother_?:eek: He is really her brother; any activity they engage in behind closed doors is their business. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/164 "2015-04-05T06:09:13Z")
**Big Trouble in Little China** , IMHO, Kurt Russell’s best bad movie. Also, if Fifth Element is considered a bad movie then I’ll say that one, too. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/165 "2015-04-07T16:42:17Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > **Big Trouble in Little China** , IMHO, Kurt Russell’s best bad movie. I would tend to use the term “brilliant” rather than bad to describe “Big Trouble in Little China.” I cannot think of any respect in which it was bad. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/166 "2015-04-07T17:49:55Z")
> [@Anon01245](#): > > What were some terrible films that were terrible but you still enjoyed them anyway? > For me: I really liked John Carter. That’s not a bad movie at all, Sure the critics didnt understand it, and box office was only OK, but it wasnt bad. Bad Films I enjoy: 1941, Doc Savage, Last action hero, Mystery Men , Flash Gordon (Queen soundtrack is great!) , UHF, and others. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/167 "2015-04-12T04:41:10Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > [Split Second](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105459/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_109) starring Rutger Hauer. I don’t think they missed a single cliche in this action-horror-sci fi melange. It works, though. It probably wouldn’t with anybody else in the lead role, but Rutger Hauer has an amazing ability to make schlock worth watching. This post reminded me of this so I had to track it down. Watching it right now. It looked bad even for the time, like a made-for-TV SyFy flick, but it really is a much better movie than that. And starring Rutger Hauer always scores a movie extra points. ---
**Author:** ![Coffeecup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Coffeecup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coffeecup)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/168 "2015-04-13T01:58:01Z")
_Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!_ (1965) starring Tura Satana. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/169 "2015-04-13T16:59:50Z")
> [@Coffeecup](#): > > _Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!_ (1965) starring Tura Satana. C’mon, _Beneath the Valley of the Ultra-Vixens_ is vastly superior film. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/170 "2015-04-13T17:14:43Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I would tend to use the term “brilliant” rather than bad to describe “Big Trouble in Little China.” I cannot think of any respect in which it was bad. I think it has good ratings on IMBD and I’m not sure about Rotten Tomatoes, but I have heard it disparaged elsewhere and when people talk about Kurt Russell they never mention this movie, like it’s some kind of dirty secret. ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/171 "2015-04-14T03:41:35Z")
The first two Fast And The Furious movies. I still don’t know what the hell everyone was expecting here. Look, _nobody_ in Hollywood gives a crap about making the engines sound right or proper shifting terminology or the correct pronunciation of “NoS” or wrapping up a drag race in 10 real time seconds. But if you want death-defying hijacks, spectacular jumps, legitimately sympathetic antiheroes, truly nasty yet strangely appealing bad guys, troubled love interests, and, oh yeah, lots of vehicles tearing it up and flipping off the law, look no further. Bonus points for showing the usual result of what happens when you places several incredibly fast vehicles in close proximity, something which was lost somewhat in the later films. Oh, and the first movie has the best motorcycle work I’ve _ever_ seen in a movie. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It worked for what it was, which is what the Indiana Jones has always been about, an improbably durable college professor battling tooth and nail to save the day. I don’t get any of the criticisms. Willie from Temple of Doom was ten thousand times as irritating as Mutt, and I completely fail to see how a refrigerator ride and benevolent monkeys are terrible sins but being able to use an arm which took a bullet at point-blank range, surviving a mountain landing in a raft, or jamming a tank barrel with a rock are perfectly acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/172 "2015-04-14T10:14:45Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It worked for what it was, which is what the Indiana Jones has always been about, an improbably durable college professor battling tooth and nail to save the day. I don’t get any of the criticisms. Willie from Temple of Doom was ten thousand times as irritating as Mutt, and I completely fail to see how a refrigerator ride and benevolent monkeys are terrible sins but being able to use an arm which took a bullet at point-blank range, surviving a mountain landing in a raft, or jamming a tank barrel with a rock are perfectly acceptable. I hear ya. I can’t help but wonder if the complaints are a result of audiences being used to more “sophisticated” (“It HAS to be good—it’s all, like, gritty and violent and covered with dirt!”) movie fare these days…or maybe just the bitter smarting of old fans who, despite getting their hopes ridiculously up, were not in fact transmogrified back into 12 year olds again as soon as the movie started. Okay, I’m being a _tad_ overly snide, on that last bit. 😉 But my point being that Nostalgia can be a cruel goddess. She blots out the bad, and moves the good to Sugarcandy Mountain. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/173 "2015-04-14T11:48:18Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > I hear ya. I can’t help but wonder if the complaints are a result of audiences being used to more “sophisticated” (“It HAS to be good—it’s all, like, gritty and violent and covered with dirt!”) movie fare these days…or maybe just the bitter smarting of old fans who, despite getting their hopes ridiculously up, were not in fact transmogrified back into 12 year olds again as soon as the movie started. No, it was because it took the more ridiculous bits of the first three movies - things which one could reasonably suspend disbelief for in context - and played them up to an extent that strained both that suspension of disbelief and one’s tolerance for annoying things. It was like having a Star Wars sequel where Jar-Jar’s grandkids are all Jedi. For example: in the first three films the Mystic Macguffin only really does its thing at the climax of the film. The Crystal Skull was being all mystical from the very start: It’s magnetic! It drives you crazy and/or gives you secret visions! It repels ants! It opens doors! It summons transdimensional aliens! It’s a floor wax, a dessert topping AND a deus ex machina! Speaking of the climax - yet another “main bad guy attempts to use Mystic Macguffin to obtain ultimate power and gets their head melted” moment, like we’ve seen twice before. Yawn. Plus: Shia La Boeuf. Admittedly not nearly as bad as Screaming Willie but still pretty annoying. Frankly if it wasn’t for Karen Allen the film would be a complete writeoff. There’s something very satisfying about watching Karen Allen punch people. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/174 "2015-04-14T14:31:21Z")
Does _Iron Sky_ count? The movie itself wasn’t very entertaining. But the _premise_ makes me smile every time I think of it. Two words, and only two words, sum up the plot: moon Nazis. A movie about moon Nazis doesn’t have to be good! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/175 "2015-04-14T14:36:44Z")
As I recall there was one Hotsie Nazi! ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/176 "2015-04-14T14:40:58Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Does _Iron Sky_ count? The movie itself wasn’t very entertaining. But the _premise_ makes me smile every time I think of it. Two words, and only two words, sum up the plot: moon Nazis. > > A movie about moon Nazis doesn’t have to be good! As I’ve mentioned on this Board, there’s a trailer out for _Iron Sky 2_ that blew me away, showing Nazis riding Dinosaurs inside the hollow earth, nuclear war in Washington, and reptilian human impersonators. The effects look great, but they’re evidently trying to crowdfund this movie still. I hadn’t heard about the first Iron Sky when I saw the trailer in January. It looks like a beautiful CGI trailer for what will probably be an awful movie. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPwtDjzJMI) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/177 "2015-04-14T15:39:37Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > As I recall there was one Hotsie Nazi! There really should be five of them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/178 "2015-04-14T17:24:54Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > As I recall there was one Hotsie Nazi! Here’s a Hotsie Nazi for ya! > **[Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilsa,_She_Wolf_of_the_SS)** > > Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS is a 1975 Canadian nazisploitation film about a sadistic and sexually voracious Nazi prison camp commandant. The film is directed by American filmmaker Don Edmonds and produced by David F. Friedman for Cinépix Film Properties in Montreal. The film stars Dyanne Thorne in the title role, who is loosely based on Ilse Koch, a convicted war criminal and overseer at the Buchenwald concentration camp. > Upon its release in early 1975, the film was immediately met with widesprea... ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363/179 "2015-04-14T17:59:40Z")
_The Fifth Element_, though I gather views on it were split roughly evenly. I loved almost everything about it: the aesthetics, the soundtrack, the plot, Chris Tucker, and so on. Weirdly, the only thing I didn’t like was Mila Jovovich. I don’t find her attractive at all and all the references to her being (physically) perfect kind of ruined my suspension of disbelief. _Willow_. It was a huge flop, but again I loved everything about it. Having said that, I haven’t watched it all the way through since I was a kid. Maybe I’d hate it now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-bad-movie-that-you-loved/716363.md?page=8)