# What is a 'box suit'?

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**Created:** [August 30, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350 "2020-08-30T03:17:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/1 "2020-08-30T03:17:30Z")

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The question is in the title.

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**Author:** ![yearofglad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b782af/32.png) [@yearofglad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yearofglad)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/2 "2020-08-30T04:40:06Z")

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Without any context, I’m guessing it’s a suit made of fabric with a box / square pattern.

[Here is a box suit.](https://www.studiosuits.com/suits/look_book/italian_linen_tang_box_suit)

[Here is a box jacket.](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/104568022579701454/)

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/3 "2020-08-30T06:13:13Z")

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As I recall, a box suit is an untailored suit. Off the rack versus a custom tailored suit. This is from the '60’s, though I think the origin goes back much farther.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/4 "2020-08-30T13:11:36Z")

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Or maybe it is some kind of lawsuit? We need the context!

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/5 "2020-08-30T13:49:22Z")

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> [@yearofglad](#):
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> [Here is a box jacket.](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/104568022579701454/)

I think I’d have the same expression if someone dressed me up like that.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/6 "2020-08-30T14:29:08Z")

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> [@Didi44](#):
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> As I recall, a box suit is an untailored suit. Off the rack versus a custom tailored suit. This is from the '60’s, though I think the origin goes back much farther.

That makes sense. I think someone mentioned one in On The Waterfront.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/7 "2020-08-30T14:41:50Z")

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I never heard the term before, but according to several Google Books hits from around 1920-50, a “box jacket” or “box coat” is one that is intended to hang loosely, as opposed to a “fitted” or “semi-fitted” style. The term “box suit” is sometimes used to mean a suit that includes such a garment. Both men’s and women’s garments were described this way.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/8 "2020-08-30T14:51:47Z")

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That also makes sense.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/9 "2020-08-30T14:52:59Z")

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> I never heard the term before, but according to several Google Books hits from around 1920-50, a “box jacket” or “box coat” is one that is intended to hang loosely, as opposed to a “fitted” or “semi-fitted” style.

The far more common term for this is “boxy”. If you google “boxy suit” you get a lot of hits for exactly this, describing the cut.

e.g.

> **[We don't do Boxy Suits - Orhan London Tailoring](https://www.orhanlondontailoring.com/we-dont-do-boxy-suits/)**
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> Tailored made to measure suits | we don't do baggy or boxy

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/10 "2020-09-01T01:12:44Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> The far more common term for this is “boxy”. If you google “boxy suit” you get a lot of hits for exactly this, describing the cut.

When I was a suit-wearing man (in Aus), that was referred to as “American Cut” (as distinct from European cut).  
Although as I remember, the _really_ boxy suits were in Singapore and Hong Kong.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/11 "2020-09-01T16:19:48Z")

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I keep expecting to see a link to a picture of David Byrne.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/12 "2020-09-07T01:49:16Z")

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I immediately thought of these monstrosities from the 80’s. A perfectly square jacket that made your shoulders look like they came out from your ears, with fitted pants that made the legs look like a Popsicle stick when you were standing still. In fact, it gave me an earworm of this Fine Young Cannibals video:  
[![](https://baseballfordinner.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/fyc.gif) ](https://baseballfordinner.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/fyc.gif)

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-box-suit/919350/13 "2020-09-27T23:48:50Z")

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I imagined the home-made Halloween robot costumes kids used to make for trick-or-treating.
