# What is Diogenes the Cynic's Condition Called **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709 "2011-02-17T16:19:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/321 "2011-02-21T18:40:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It’s spelled “lose.” No it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/322 "2011-02-21T18:53:55Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I would pay thousands of dollars to have \*that \*on DVD. Shooting yourself in the face is a lot less painful. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/323 "2011-02-21T19:28:25Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Shooting yourself in the face is a lot less painful. There’s a crass joke here but for some reason I just… don’t seem… to have the energy. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/324 "2011-02-21T19:39:14Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Shooting yourself in the face is a lot less painful. And ultimately less disfiguring, not to mention socially acceptable. I understand from my studies in anthropology that in some cultures troll-like behavior was rewarded and celebrated for the wise and sagacious benefits it provides. Of course, on average those cultures last approximately 13.2 years before being overrun by other cultures that are capable of maintaining focus and cohesive thought. I have it on good authority that the Great Fire of Rome burned so extensively because the Roman Senate was moribund by trolls who insisted that fire doesn’t burn and then denying that they ever said such a thing except in a very obscure context. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/325 "2011-02-21T19:55:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yeah, you just keep telling yourself that. From what I’ve heard, they’re already releasing Season 1 on DVD. What? No, Blu-ray? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/326 "2011-02-21T20:09:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There is no such thing as the “Dio Show.” You’d think you’d be more grateful after the Emmy Award nomination. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/327 "2011-02-21T20:14:59Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I would pay thousands of dollars to have \*that \*on DVD. I wouldn’t even use it as a beermat. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/328 "2011-02-21T20:28:58Z")
Are we talking about me riding Guin’s bra strap being on DVD?? Or the Dio show. I’m confused. But if there is a DVD of me riding Guin’s bra strap, I better not see buckety sitting his beer on it. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/329 "2011-02-21T20:48:48Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There is no such thing as the “Dio Show.” That’s not for you to say. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/330 "2011-02-21T20:52:22Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > a DVD of me riding Guin’s bra strap Sort of want!:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/331 "2011-02-21T21:05:28Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Are we talking about me riding Guin’s bra strap being on DVD?? Oh, um. I took ‘strap’ to mean ‘strap-on.’ No wonder I’ve been enjoying my imaginary DVD a lot more than other people. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/332 "2011-02-21T21:11:56Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > As for #2, it is very clear that while **Diogenes the Cynic** is a terminal jerkoff case, he clearly isn’t an idiot. He very carefully gauges how far to go in pushing other people’s buttons and then withdrawing into an auto-persecution mode, claiming that everyone who takes issue with him just can’t handle the truth, and then resorting to a series of rapid fire assertions in which he pretends to have the intellect of a three year old playing the passive-aggressive game of “What, what did I do?” with adults as a way of showing control over others. But while he pretends to be a Village Idiot, his pattern indicates a very coy manipulation of others. “The Terminator of assholes,” indeed. > > Stranger I didn’t say that he was an idiot. I said he should be given as much credance as a mentally retarded person. Playing the ‘coy innocent’ game is richly rewarded in our society, where most people aren’t really that bright and have an extreme aversion to negative emotions, which they are taught from birth are ‘wrong’. So they see one party being the wide eyed innocent and the other party being angry, and they side with the innocent party because anger is wrong (or so they believe and feel). So Dio is just playing a game that he has very probably perfected in his real life, and has been richly rewarded for doing. Behavior that is rewarded is repeated. Hell, he probably takes great pride in being able to undermine others by playing the game to the point of making them lose their cool, at which point they are the ones that are discredited, not him. Most people who play these kinds of social games think themselves very clever in their ability to manipulate others and will often go out of their way to create new situations in which they can experience the “reward” of “winning” by unbalancing their opponents. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/333 "2011-02-21T21:15:27Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Oh, um. > > I took ‘strap’ to mean ‘strap-on.’ > > No wonder I’ve been enjoying my imaginary DVD a lot more than other people. Oh. Ok. I just say that when I’m gushing over a girl too much. I didn’t mean _riding her strap-on!_ Not that I doubt Guin can handle a large black woman in the bedroom. I’m sure she can. But that’s not what I meant. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/334 "2011-02-21T21:24:25Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > I wouldn’t even use it as a beermat. Yes you would. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/335 "2011-02-21T21:31:14Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yes you would. He never said he wouldn’t. (Besides Dio, MOL has this game the best. She is a pro at it.) ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/336 "2011-02-21T21:31:15Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > You’d think you’d be more grateful after the Emmy Award nomination. And he would have won it, if it wasn’t for those meddling kids from Glee. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/337 "2011-02-21T21:36:50Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Hell, do they even ever bother to warn (even unofficially) the fucker to knock it off or take a break for that matter once in awhile? He has been told to knock if off [once](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13477894&postcount=228) in a [while](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13123219&postcount=126). ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/338 "2011-02-21T21:36:50Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Sucker. Well, looks like you were correct. I was about the only person over the last three pages NOT to refer to **Dio** as a jerkoff or a troll, and to actually try to address his arguments, and apparently that means that i’m about the only person he isn’t interested in responding to. _C’est la vie_. ---
**Author:** ![maplekiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@maplekiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maplekiwi)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/339 "2011-02-21T22:00:47Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > He has been told to knock if off [once](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13477894&postcount=228) in a [while](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13123219&postcount=126). & a big thumbs up to \*\*Czarcasm \*\*in the first thread. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/340 "2011-02-21T22:09:30Z")
> [@maplekiwi](#): > > & a big thumbs up to \*\*Czarcasm \*\*in the first thread. Full disclosure, Czar was arguing \*his own case \*when he made that mod note. Which always seem a bit shady to me when I see mods do it, but who cares. Still a great mod note. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709.md?page=18)