# What is Diogenes the Cynic's Condition Called **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709 "2011-02-17T16:19:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/341 "2011-02-21T22:15:30Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Full disclosure, Czar was arguing \*his own case \*when he made that mod note. Which always seem a bit shady to me when I see mods do it, but who cares. Still a great mod note. So, when the MODS actually get some stereotypical Dio dung thrown THEIR way they once in a blue moon wag their finger at Dio. Color me unimpressed. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/342 "2011-02-21T22:24:12Z")
I think we should make Dio a mod. That would be the mostest bestest thing to ever happen these boards. ATMB would rival IMDB in board traffic… ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/343 "2011-02-21T22:29:40Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > I think we should make Dio a mod. That would be the mostest bestest thing to ever happen these boards. ATMB would rival IMDB in board traffic… That would _so_ be meta. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/344 "2011-02-21T22:43:27Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I didn’t say that he was an idiot. I said he should be given as much credance as a mentally retarded person. > > Playing the ‘coy innocent’ game is richly rewarded in our society, where most people aren’t really that bright and have an extreme aversion to negative emotions, which they are taught from birth are ‘wrong’. So they see one party being the wide eyed innocent and the other party being angry, and they side with the innocent party because anger is wrong (or so they believe and feel). > > So Dio is just playing a game that he has very probably perfected in his real life, and has been richly rewarded for doing. Behavior that is rewarded is repeated. Hell, he probably takes great pride in being able to undermine others by playing the game to the point of making them lose their cool, at which point they are the ones that are discredited, not him. Most people who play these kinds of social games think themselves very clever in their ability to manipulate others and will often go out of their way to create new situations in which they can experience the “reward” of “winning” by unbalancing their opponents. I assure you, this is sheer fantasy on your part (I’m the opposite of passive-aggressive IRL, I’m a hothead, and incapable of manipulation), though I do sometimes find it interesting to see the kinds of personalities that people project on me. I am not the devious genius that people think I am. I never think beyond the post I’m making at that second. I’m just opinionated, that’s all. I have no greater agenda. ---
**Author:** ![maplekiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@maplekiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maplekiwi)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/345 "2011-02-21T22:48:04Z")
I was more thinking about **Czarcasm** in post #223 > [@](#): > > You are on very dangerous ground here if you are claiming that I faked that link. I suggest that you very carefully restate what you just said. & I guess I’m speaking as someone who (as yet) has never been bothered by **Dio’s** posts. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/346 "2011-02-21T22:49:02Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I am not the devious genius that people think I am. Well, to be fair, no-one else has mentioned the word genius in this thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/347 "2011-02-21T22:50:11Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I assure you, this is sheer fantasy on your part (I’m the opposite of passive-aggressive IRL, I’m a hothead, and incapable of manipulation), though I do sometimes find it interesting to see the kinds of personalities that people project on me. I am not the devious genius that people think I am. I never think beyond the post I’m making at that second. I’m just opinionated, that’s all. I have no greater agenda. No one has ever projected anything onto you. I have never seen this done even once. What greater agenda? Nobody ever said that. ---
**Author:** ![maplekiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@maplekiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maplekiwi)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/348 "2011-02-21T22:50:49Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Well, to be fair, no-one else has mentioned the word genius in this thread. 🙂 😃 Chortle! ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/349 "2011-02-21T23:18:03Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Well, looks like you were correct. > > I was about the only person over the last three pages NOT to refer to **Dio** as a jerkoff or a troll, and to actually try to address his arguments, and apparently that means that i’m about the only person he isn’t interested in responding to. > > _C’est la vie_. Just so your efforts weren’t entirely in vain I’ll let you know I enjoyed your post. Not as much as the Dio-impersonators, but enjoyed it nonetheless. That it was not responded to is because, along with those pointing out the possibility of speedometer inaccuracy, it blows the shit out of the “you can’t block the left lane going the speed limit” argument. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/350 "2011-02-21T23:26:56Z")
Wait – so if I understand that one thread, **Dio** is claiming that it’s NOT illegal to disobey the speed limit? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/351 "2011-02-21T23:29:30Z")
You do misunderstand it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/352 "2011-02-21T23:30:36Z")
No, I’m claiming it’s not illegal to OBEY the speed limit. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/353 "2011-02-21T23:32:36Z")
Practically everybody else on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/354 "2011-02-22T00:15:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, I’m claiming it’s not illegal to OBEY the speed limit. Which is not the argument. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/355 "2011-02-22T00:26:34Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > No one has ever projected anything onto you. I have never seen this done even once. What greater agenda? Nobody ever said that. Methinks he doth protest too much. How deep is that hole now, **Dio**? “I’ll eventually \ convince everybody \ that I’m really on the up-and-up \ and then they’ll see what a fine \ upstanding member of the SD community I really am!” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/356 "2011-02-22T00:31:30Z")
Is that how you think I think? I have no illusion that I will ever convince anybody of anything. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/357 "2011-02-22T00:37:01Z")
Then why do you continue to argue? Just like seeing your own words on the screen? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/358 "2011-02-22T00:39:58Z")
I don’t know. I can’t stand leaving something unaddressed. I also don’t want to get accused of running away. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/359 "2011-02-22T00:43:06Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t know. I can’t stand leaving something unaddressed. I also don’t want to get accused of running away. Well, you’ve already been accused of such by one poster in this very thread who made a very thoughtful post. Where’s your reply? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/360 "2011-02-22T00:47:10Z")
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