# What is Diogenes the Cynic's Condition Called

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709 "2011-02-17T16:19:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/101 "2011-02-18T17:50:18Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t troll.

I’d say that is a troll.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/102 "2011-02-18T17:51:40Z")

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> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> I’d say that is a troll.

No it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/103 "2011-02-18T18:06:47Z")

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One thing I’m sure of is that Dio doesn’t troll. “Troll” still doesn’t mean “has strong opinions you don’t like”.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/104 "2011-02-18T18:06:53Z")

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Trolls generally don’t admit to trolling until they get tired of it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/105 "2011-02-18T18:09:30Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> One thing I’m sure of is that Dio doesn’t troll. “Troll” still doesn’t mean “has strong opinions you don’t like”.

It can mean “posts sincerely held strong opinions for the purpose of attracting attention” though.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/106 "2011-02-18T18:16:58Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> One thing I’m sure of is that Dio doesn’t troll. “Troll” still doesn’t mean “has strong opinions you don’t like”.

Depends on how narrowly “troll” is defined, I suppose. Makes inflammatory statements in order to get a rise out of other posters? Check. Gets off on stirring the hive? Pretty clearly.

Adopts a false persona? Nah, I suspect what we see is what you get. Makes claims he knows to be untrue? I don’t think so.

All trolls are shit-stirrers, but all shit-stirrers are not necessarily trolls.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/107 "2011-02-18T18:21:40Z")

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> [@The\_Surb](#):
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> There was a thread about six months ago that that idiot popped in and shat three posts in the thread, no one took the bait, And guess what, he left. Yes ladies and gentlemen, he left. Off he fucked. Instead of turning a nice thread into a 9-page Dio bullshit thread, he actually just fucked off and left.

At the risk of being insufficient in my damnation of this abominable trollman…

The way you describe this, it does sound quite nefarious, what with all the shatting and baiting and off-fucking. I’m just curious, however, what it would have looked like if he had instead read a thread that caught his interest, posted his opinion in three posts, and moved on.

How could you tell the difference, for those of us who want to improve in our ability to spot trolls?

It’s particularly important because given his stats, he is getting away with a ton of baiting that nobody is picking up on! 17.53 posts per day, yet a pit thread about Dio only once every six weeks or so! You see the problem, right? Subliminal trolling!

We must drive the beast out! Get your pitchforks and torches.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/108 "2011-02-18T18:23:37Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> It can mean “posts sincerely held strong opinions for the purpose of attracting attention” though.

Are you posting here to avoid attention?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/109 "2011-02-18T18:25:30Z")

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I’m no attention whore, either.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/110 "2011-02-18T18:35:20Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> No it isn’t.

Yes, it is.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/111 "2011-02-18T18:43:22Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Yeah, because this post:
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> [QUOTE=Stink Fish Pot]
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> Remember two items from his personal statistics. 53,617 and 17.53. The first one refers to the total number of posts Dio has made since 10-03-2002 (his join date - a bit over 8 years) and the second refers to his average posts per day since he joined. That’s per day. Think about that for a minute.

_really_ had me thinking about that for a minute. That’s a lotta posts, folks.  
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Well, to be fair, I believe he only works on weekends, and the rest of the time is a SAHD.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/112 "2011-02-18T18:49:23Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Yes, it is.

I never said it wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/113 "2011-02-18T18:55:41Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t troll.

Nobody has ever accused you of trolling.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/114 "2011-02-18T18:55:53Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> It can mean “posts sincerely held strong opinions for the purpose of attracting attention” though.

I don’t post to get attention.

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**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/115 "2011-02-18T18:56:32Z")

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For everyone who is saying “Ignore him” or “Just don’t engage”, how are new posters to this board supposed to know that? The old timers have obviously seen enough to know this, but once in a while, there are newbies who think it’s all genuine discussion until they hit that obstinate wall. But by then, you have the recurring situation of a simple discussion being derailed into pages after page of tedious conversation that have minimal resemblance to the original discussion. And once in a while, there is a subsequent pit thread. Is this some weird rite of passage for the SDMB?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/116 "2011-02-18T18:57:28Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Depends on how narrowly “troll” is defined, I suppose. Makes inflammatory statements in order to get a rise out of other posters? Check. Gets off on stirring the hive? Pretty clearly.

Nope. Wrong on both counts. Never done either of these things and would have no interest in them.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/117 "2011-02-18T18:58:29Z")

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> [@Grapefruit](#):
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> For everyone who is saying “Ignore him” or “Just don’t engage”, how are new posters to this board supposed to know that? The old timers have obviously seen enough to know this, but once in a while, there are newbies who think it’s all genuine discussion

I am always genuine.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/118 "2011-02-18T19:03:08Z")

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> [@Grapefruit](#):
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> For everyone who is saying “Ignore him” or “Just don’t engage”, how are new posters to this board supposed to know that?

Great point! How will they know that they should ignore him unless we tell them that they should?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/119 "2011-02-18T19:03:23Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t post to get attention.

Why do you post?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/120 "2011-02-18T19:03:37Z")

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You’re being a little obvious here.

Regards,  
Shodan

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