# What is Diogenes the Cynic's Condition Called

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709 "2011-02-17T16:19:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/161 "2011-02-18T23:18:30Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Nobody has ever attacked you. This is false.

Prediction:  
No response to this.

Or, if there is a response, it will be because I said “Prediction: No response to this.” and we will be able to detect it because it will deviate from his natural rhythm.

Now it’s possible **Dio** will surprise us and not only respond, but in a way that doesn’t appear to be trying to out-psychology us, it will sound like a sincere response. However, the pattern is set and this is actually going to be tougher than it looks.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/162 "2011-02-19T03:31:25Z")

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Why should I respond to what are obviously facetious statements? What kind of response would you be looking for? You didn’t ask a question or make a substantive comment. “Nobody is attacking you hur hur” is not a statement that seeks a response.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/163 "2011-02-19T03:39:38Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> You didn’t ask a question or make a substantive comment.

Yes she did.

This is fun.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/164 "2011-02-19T03:41:47Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Why should I respond to what are obviously facetious statements? What kind of response would you be looking for? You didn’t ask a question or make a substantive comment. “Nobody is attacking you hur hur” is not a statement that seeks a response.

Scoring:  
1 point for responding at all  
1 point for a **Dio** -ish sounding response  
0 points for the “natural rhythm” (this part is subjective, like synchronized swimming judging) because there was no response to numerous of my previous posts recently, but this one trapped you  
I’m only one judge, the judges from France, Sweden, Japan, etc. may give you higher marks in that last category, not sure.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/165 "2011-02-19T03:58:06Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> “Outrageous statements” meaning “something I disagree with,” of course.

Try again:

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/186):
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> Speaking of which, providing you are actually located in Minnesota
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> The law says that under normal driving circumstances you stay in the right lane unless passing.  
> Period.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/188):
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> This is not enforced. It would actually be impossible to enforce since traffic on the freeways would stop dead if it was.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/189):
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> Surely your ethics are of a higher caliber than “It’s o.k. to do it if nobody is looking.”?  
> The law in your state says to stay in the right lane unless you are passing-is this correct?

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/190):
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> No. I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure not.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/191):
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> Do you not reside in Minnesota?

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/193):
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> Yes, and nobody drives that way. It would be impossible in the Twin Cities.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/194):
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> Then answer the question: The law in your state says to stay in the right lane unless you are passing-is this correct? (Here’s a hint-see post #186, which posts the official answer)

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/196):
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> I knew I shouldn’t have conceded that everyone who passes is necessarily speeding. ☹
> 
> 1. False. 2) MN roads are not exclusively confined to the Twin Cities.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/200):
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> [Here is the link you requested](https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=169.18). Now, putting aside your hyperbole about how everyone else does it, does or does not the law of your state say that you must use the right line unless you are passing another vehicle?

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/202):
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> It’s not enforced, so no, not really, there is no such requirement.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/206):
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> Please cite how you know that the law is not enforced.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/207):
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> For the last time-Is it the _law_ in your home state that you drive in the right lane unless passing? If your answer is anything but yes, please provide a link that shows that the Minnesota law 169.18 has been repealed.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/218):
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> I don’t even really buy that it’s the law here. if it is, then it’s the most ignored law in the state.

> [@What do you do about people blocking the passing lane?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-people-blocking-the-passing-lane/571476/223):
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> You are on very dangerous ground here if you are claiming that I faked that link. I suggest that you very carefully restate what you just said.

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’ve said my piece.

Yes. Repeatedly. It’s getting old.

Here’s an idea: why not ignore the ones trying to poke you? Oh, right, then they’ll complain that you’re not responding. Can’t have that now, can you?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/166 "2011-02-19T04:07:55Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Here’s an idea: why not ignore the ones trying to poke you?

I do.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/167 "2011-02-19T04:09:27Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I do.

You do what?

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**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/168 "2011-02-19T04:13:46Z")

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I think he and **Lute** just got married.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/169 "2011-02-19T04:15:19Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I do.

That’s probably a good idea.

If I was so stupid that I thought all Arabs were Muslims and that all Arabic institutions are Islamic instutuions, I’d keep my mouth shut as well.

I suppose it’s possible you’re a bigot as well as being stupid, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/170 "2011-02-19T04:20:15Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> That’s probably a good idea.
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> If I was so stupid that I thought all Arabs were Muslims and that all Arabic institutions are Islamic instituions, I’d keep my mouth shut as well.

I’ve never said or thought either one of these things. You’re confusing me with someone else.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/171 "2011-02-19T04:21:55Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’ve never said or thought either one of these things. You’re confusing me with someone else.

**Ibn Warraq** didn’t say you said or thought either one of those things, did he/she?

Note: for all 2 people following this, I’ve added the question at the end because that was one of the reasons **Dio** wouldn’t respond to my posts, “no substantive comment or ask a question”. Let’s see if **Dio** is true to his word.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/172 "2011-02-19T04:51:59Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’ve never said or thought either one of these things. You’re confusing me with someone else.

No, you’ve never said it, but you clearly thought it.

You described two Muslims as “Islamophobic douchebags” because they mentioned that Al Jazeera as a matter of policy referred to Palestinian suicide bombers during the Intifada.

Now leaving aside the idiocy of condeming two men who actually like Al Jazeera, such a comment is utterly moronic since Al Jazeera is hardly a Muslim organization. In fact, as those two men have noted a substantial number of Al Jazeeras reporters and editors are Christians.

In short calling critics of Al Jazeera “Islamophobic douchebags” is like calling critics of CNN "anti-Christian douchebags.

So yes, you’ve made comments which make it clear you think Arab and Muslim are synonymous even though you haven’t explicitly said so.

Like I said, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re simply stupid and not a bigot.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/173 "2011-02-19T06:09:17Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> No, you’ve never said it, but you clearly thought it.

Nope. I’m far more educated than that. Your attempt to make a a case to the contrary is so asinine that I don’t even really understand it.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/174 "2011-02-19T06:38:11Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Nope. I’m far more educated than that.

I’m sorry, but people who think that Al Jazeera is a Muslim organization are clearly not well-educated.

As I demonstrated, you’ve made statements which claim you think it is.

I’m sorry if you’re ignorant about Muslims and Middle Easterners. I’d be happy to help you learn more if you’re interested, but since you’re incapable of admitting you’re wrong and you moronically accuse Muslim academics of being bigots I don’t see the point.

Anyway, if your internet persona is remotely like your real world persona, do the world a favor and get a vasectomy because someone as stupid as you really shouldn’t reproduce.

> [@](#):
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> Your attempt to make a a case to the contrary is so asinine that I don’t even really understand i

Yes, I apologize. I should have used simpler words and added pictures.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/175 "2011-02-19T06:41:28Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I do.

Your posting history does not support this.

**Dio** , you were relatively normal three years ago. What happened?

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/176 "2011-02-19T07:27:59Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Your posting history does not support this.
> 
> **Dio** , you were relatively normal three years ago. What happened?

Is that true?

If **Dio** is not trolling, if he really does have mental problems, I would feel bad about messing with him.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/177 "2011-02-19T07:37:59Z")

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I’ve had an epiphany - I know who **Dio** is in real life. He’s [Karl Pilkington](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Pilkington). One of KP’s funniest foibles is his inability to differentiate his sources of information. He will state as fact things that he sourced from anywhere at all. Someone tells him something and it becomes the gospel. He sees a movie where dinosaurs coexist with man and that becomes his reality.

Sound familiar?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/178 "2011-02-19T07:58:48Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Your posting history does not support this.
> 
> **Dio** , you were relatively normal three years ago. What happened?

Was this about the time he had his big “I’m leaving the board and you’re all poopy-heads” cryfest?

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/179 "2011-02-19T08:49:40Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Was this about the time he had his big “I’m leaving the board and you’re all poopy-heads” cryfest?

That never happened.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diogenes-the-cynics-condition-called/571709/180 "2011-02-19T16:15:46Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> I’m sorry, but people who think that Al Jazeera is a Muslim organization are clearly not well-educated.

I don’t think that. You’re confusing me with somebody else. I also know that Islamophobes don’t know the difference, so hatred of Al Jazeera is often rooted in Islamophobia through sheer ignorance. Calling Islamophobia on Al Jazeera bashers does not mean I think Al Jazeera is Muslim. Sorry. I am far better educated than that.

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