# What is Donald Trump's IQ? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521 "2017-10-10T22:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/81 "2017-10-11T22:35:38Z")
It matters, profoundly, my life and the safety of this country depend on someone in power having a little bit of sense. Not to mention the lack of self control and his idiotic statements via twitter. I am telling you, this ain’t going to end well! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/82 "2017-10-11T22:45:08Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > His IQ is likely not as low as some of us have posited in this thread. However, it’s also likely not [nearly as high as he thinks it is](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/332308211321425920?lang=en). Like so many things recently, I had to double check this as it appeared so over the top I assumed it was parody. God help us. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/83 "2017-10-11T22:47:30Z")
Its possible he knows his IQ but doesn’t know how IQ testing is scored. Maybe he thinks 100 is the top possible score. And he thinks he’s the winner of smart, amazingly off the charts smart, smarter than the smartest person ever, because he scored a 102. and I’m actually being halfway serious here. edit: I wrote this BEFORE I saw the tweet. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/84 "2017-10-11T22:49:15Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > His IQ is likely not as low as some of us have posited in this thread. However, it’s also likely not [nearly as high as he thinks it is](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/332308211321425920?lang=en). > [@Procrustus](#): > > Like so many things recently, I had to double check this as it appeared so over the top I assumed it was parody. God help us. In case anyone didn’t follow that link, this is what Der Trumpster tweeted: > [@](#): > > Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure,it’s not your fault God help us, indeed. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/85 "2017-10-11T23:20:32Z")
I already knew it wasn’t my fault. I voted for Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/86 "2017-10-11T23:21:51Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > It matters, profoundly, my life and the safety of this country depend on someone in power having a little bit of sense. Not to mention the lack of self control and his idiotic statements via twitter. I am telling you, this ain’t going to end well! That’s my point. This the Trump administration fighting against the Trump administration. There’s no way it can win this fight. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/87 "2017-10-11T23:25:18Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > God help us, indeed. :smack: Every day I wake up and think to myself: “He can’t get any worse.” And every day he does. > [@CNN](#): > > President Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday afternoon that he found it “frankly disgusting the press is able to write whatever it wants to write.” ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/88 "2017-10-11T23:56:50Z")
Lordy, lordy what we gonna do!!! ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/89 "2017-10-11T23:58:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I already knew it wasn’t my fault. I voted for Clinton. I remember a famous quip back in the 60s. “They warned me, vote for Goldwater, and the war in Viet Nam will be escalated. Sure enough, I voted for Goldwater, and look what happened.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/90 "2017-10-12T00:12:12Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Every day I wake up and think to myself: “He can’t get any worse.” And every day he does. And people say he’s not good at anything! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/91 "2017-10-12T00:28:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Oly** : > > Trump has the same sort of talent a predatory lizard has. His primary asset, and it is formidable, is a keen sense of timing and an eye for the jugular. As well as a complete lack of any sense of shame. > > As for IQ, I find it difficult to believe he could sit still and focus long enough to complete an IQ test. If there’s one thing that predatory lizards are _really_ good at, it’s sitting still and focusing. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/92 "2017-10-12T00:39:56Z")
All I can say is: amendment 25!! ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/93 "2017-10-12T00:47:16Z")
I really don’t it’s trump IQ we have to worry about ! I think it more the IQ of his supporters that voted for him ! Someone just posted on another forum I use that trump " is doing a good job for the country and there nothing to worry about" . DAMN I am really worried after reading that ! ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/94 "2017-10-12T02:56:58Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > And he certainly has a high level of intuition for his pre-political world of media savvy self promotion nominally at least in the real estate business (I’m viewing his reality TV stardom and earlier status as tabloid fixture in NY as one continuum, as strictly a real estate guy he had mixed success). Then he showed his talent was more than one dimensional with his insight into what a lot of the GOP base had been wanting to hear but had not from other GOP’ers, and enough general election voters wanted to hear too. I view it as unlikely he entirely bumbled into both of those successes, though OTOH he’s not the kind of person to explicitly think things through in a highly self aware way. He’s intuitive. It’s not so much “bumbled” as that these things aren’t IQ tests. We may as well ask how someone could be a successful basketball player if they don’t have a high IQ. Better would be, yes, a formal IQ test or failing that just listen to the guy: when has he ever demonstrated nuance or detailed understanding or even quick wits on _anything_? Best example from the thousands of hours of tape we have on him is…? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/95 "2017-10-12T09:27:38Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > I really don’t it’s trump IQ we have to worry about ! I think it more the IQ of his supporters that voted for him ! Someone just posted on another forum I use that trump " is doing a good job for the country and there nothing to worry about" . DAMN I am really worried after reading that ! Hey, one of the great features of a democracy is the half of the population at and below 100IQ have just as much say and need to be pandered to as all the intellectual giants. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/96 "2017-10-13T15:11:52Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Cite? You first. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/97 "2017-10-13T16:30:54Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > It’s not so much “bumbled” as that these things aren’t IQ tests. We may as well ask how someone could be a successful basketball player if they don’t have a high IQ. > > … when has he ever demonstrated nuance or detailed understanding or even quick wits on _anything_? Being a successful (professional) basketball player has a very high hurdle of physical ability as a necessary condition. To which the greatest players _add_ an intuitive mental ‘basketball IQ’ to distinguish themselves. Not a very good comparison IMO to differing applications of mental skill which don’t require very rare physical capability to apply. No Trump’s concrete successes are not IQ tests, obviously. But they are applications of mental talent. And they have required in fact quick (intuitive) wits to come up with what sells to followers (in his entertainment life) and voters. The fact his insights might be completely lost on you or me, or anathema to us, doesn’t mean he didn’t get ahead of other real estate/entertainers or politicians on his wits. And like I said, I don’t have personal data to correlate people’s apparent mental acuity in practical terms from IQ scores. Trump might have a low or high IQ score, I don’t know. But in his way he’s very clever, that’s for sure, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/98 "2017-10-13T18:43:01Z")
> [@Oly](#): > > As for IQ, I find it difficult to believe he could sit still and focus long enough to complete an IQ test. Figure he focused for a respectable stretch on live television during the debates. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/99 "2017-10-13T19:57:30Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > Snark aside - Ronald Reagan was pretty smart. For example, in his early days, he had a radio job reading the box score off the telegram wire (live) and making up color commentary for a baseball game as if he was watching it live. One time, line went down, and he had to fake it for an inning or two with no information… which he did flawlessly - then get caught back up. Reagan “flawlessly” covered for the loss of live reports from the game by having the batter foul off pitches for half an hour. He might as well have reported that a herd of wildebeest had stampeded on the field and trampled the pitcher’s mound. ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521/100 "2017-10-13T22:01:42Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Reagan “flawlessly” covered for the loss of live reports from the game by having the batter foul off pitches for half an hour. He might as well have reported that a herd of wildebeest had stampeded on the field and trampled the pitcher’s mound. No, that would be a stupid thing to do because he had no way of knowing exactly how long the wire transmission would be dead for. And he didn’t just call foul balls the entire duration. Reagan recalls the broadcast event starting at 1:47 here: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ol2v-cKqBQY/hqdefault.jpg "President Reagan's Interview with Jim Zabel of WHO Radio in Des Moines, Iowa — 2/20/84") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol2v-cKqBQY) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-donald-trumps-iq/798521.md?page=6)