# What is going on with the antisemitism from these college heads? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 6, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173 "2023-12-06T12:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/121 "2023-12-08T02:59:25Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Thank you! Posting on this topic can be quite draining, so I really appreciate hearing something like this šŸ™‚ I hope you are doing something for self-care, as I know what itā€™s like to make impassioned posts on topics that feel draining, and hearing that youā€™re getting through to some people can feel really positively reinforcing, but it can also lead to burnout. Take care of you. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/122 "2023-12-08T04:22:04Z")
Iā€™ll add another thumbs up for your posts on the current mid east crisis. Iā€™m not posting in those threads for several reasons, but I make a point of reading what you have to say. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/123 "2023-12-08T04:31:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Yes, there was a Hamas base under the hospital. @Sam_Stone You have a cite with that rant? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/124 "2023-12-08T04:44:04Z")
I just do not understand the praise Babale is getting. Maybe Iā€™m missing a ton of posts. But when I have dipped my toe in to any of these threads, I can always predict that Babaleā€™s post will be one made in anger, and that said anger seems to get in the way. In this thread in particular, I see her lashing out at HMS for his argument that the students may not have the same meaning in mind of a certain word that she does. But, in a later post, she admits that they may not have that same understanding. But then, right after that, she has another post lashing out at HMS for making that claim. Thereā€™s also the post that spawned the ATMB thread. I think I already posted about my issues with that one. But the main thing Iā€™ll note here is that the person she had angrily responded to had repeatedly clarified that she had misunderstood what he meant. But she seemed unwilling to listen to this. And I donā€™t want to this to be read as an attack on Babale. Thatā€™s not my intent. This is more that I canā€™t keep reading posts that seem contrary to my perception without saying something. To me, Babaleā€™s posts are not helpful, but chase people away. Donā€™t get me wrong: sheā€™s not the only one. Sam\_Stoneā€™s rather disingenuous provocative argument style isnā€™t helping either. But heā€™s been like that for a while. Babale is someone whose posts I generally like. But not with this situation. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/125 "2023-12-08T04:48:13Z")
Babaleā€™s a man, man. ---
**Author:** ![P91noX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@P91noX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P91noX)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/126 "2023-12-08T04:48:58Z")
Which part of [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/2323) is angry? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/127 "2023-12-08T06:34:56Z")
Hereā€™s the Reuters report on the tunnels and rooms under the hospital: [https://www.reuters.com/pictures/hamas-tunnels-under-shifa-hospital-according-israel-2023-11-22/](https://www.reuters.com/pictures/hamas-tunnels-under-shifa-hospital-according-israel-2023-11-22/) Rooms, tunnels and a heavy weapons cache. I guess we can debate what constitutes a ā€˜baseā€™. Also, all the photos are from the IDF, so assign as much credibility to them as you think they warrant. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/128 "2023-12-08T06:43:48Z")
FWIW: > **[Israel Gaza war: UPenn loses $100m donation after House testimony](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67655910)** > > It comes after presidents of Harvard, MIT, and UPenn testified to Congress about antisemitism on campus. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/129 "2023-12-08T07:01:07Z")
Missed the edit window. I should have included a quote from that link in my last post: > In an email, seen by the BBC, Mr Stevens said: ā€œI have clear grounds to rescind Pennā€™s $100 million of Stone Ridge shares due to the conduct of President Magill.ā€ > > The founder and CEO of Stone Ridge Asset Management, Mr Stevens told the university that its ā€œpermissive approachā€ to those calling for violence against Jewish people ā€œwould violate any policies or rules that prohibit harassment and discrimination based on religion, including those of Stone Ridgeā€. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/130 "2023-12-08T07:12:35Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Maybe Iā€™m missing a ton of posts. But when I have dipped my toe in to any of these threads, I can always predict that Babaleā€™s post will be one made in anger, and that said anger seems to get in the way. I have sensed that anger too. Maybe combative is a better term. I get a sense that @Babale feels he is the keeper of the facts/truth on this topic and doesnā€™t brook much disagreement. It is an emotionally charged topic though so I get where it comes from. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/131 "2023-12-08T08:47:49Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I have sensed that anger too If Babaleā€™s anything like me, heā€™s been living in a state of constant simmering rage for the past two months. The fact that he is capable of coming here again and again and making relatively calm, rational arguments is nothing short of amazing. God knows, I canā€™t do it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/132 "2023-12-08T09:01:23Z")
Babale has been angry, and snarky, but completely understandably. Heā€™s also good at admitting when heā€™s overstepped. Iā€™ve been on the receiving end of it the last few weeks and have no issue with it (when appropriate to the forum). We should be able to disagree about aspects of the situation, and thatā€™s generally been how things have proceeded, at least as far as Babale and Alessan are concerned. The content-free ā€œButwhatabout Hamasā€¦ā€ sniping from Macgiver, on the other hand, was getting quite tiresome, but they seemed to have tailed off a bit. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/133 "2023-12-08T13:40:01Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > And so theyā€™re giving the most banal, unsatisfying and wishy-washy answers they think they can manage. And then after the fact, seeing how the winds blow, they try to create ā€˜clarityā€™ in their intents with after the fact follow ups. > > So, again, rather than being specifically _antisemitic_ theyā€™re waffling from much more banal motivations. Given that at this point in time the primary job of ā€œUniversity Presidentā€ is essentially ā€œensure continued influx of funding and continued perception of how great we areā€, itā€™s not surprising. Everything else that official signs off on ā€“ hiring of prestigious faculty, running cutting-edge research projects, fielding a smashing sports program, creating Safe Spaces, accepting or granting awards ā€“ is a predicated on that. And repeating myself, **whatever** answer they gave would have been ā€œwrongā€ in the eyes of legislators who just wanted to publicly chastise them for not being ā€œon the right sideā€. Legislators _who were perfectly willing to live with ā€œthereā€™s fine people on both sidesā€_ until it began going down at _these_ particular schools. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/134 "2023-12-08T14:22:18Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I have sensed that anger too. Maybe combative is a better term. I get a sense that @Babale feels he is the keeper of the facts/truth on this topic and doesnā€™t brook much disagreement. > > It is an emotionally charged topic though so I get where it comes from. Iā€™m okay with this, because it is helping me to understand how personal this is to some people. Iā€™m not saying @Babale is the ultimate arbiter of truth in this situation, I am saying he is representing his perspective well. That includes being pissed off and combative, because you know some people feel that way, and itā€™s given me insight into why some people feel that way. Does anybody here doubt _why_ he feels that way? No. Heā€™s made it perfectly clear. Iā€™ve been in this boat, and for me it ultimately resulted in burnout, and I just donā€™t feel as angry and triggered or whatever over certain subjects the way I used to be, but coming from that experience I think itā€™s very important to recognize that you can both be angry about a subject and correct at the same time. We have a tendency to dismiss emotional people as irrational, which IMO is rooted in misogyny since itā€™s usually women who get that shit, but in truth everyone has an emotional motive for any judgment they make, and there is plenty of science to back that up. To expect someone directly affected by an idea or a policy or a war to be impartial is irrational in and of itself, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/135 "2023-12-08T14:34:15Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > But when I have dipped my toe in to any of these threads, I can always predict that Babaleā€™s post will be one made in anger, and that said anger seems to get in the way. Of course I am _angry_. There was a _massive_ terrorist attack on my home country, with my people getting slaughtered by murderers in cold blood. I try not to let that anger ā€œget in the way,ā€ though. That doesnā€™t mean it isnā€™t there, and that I donā€™t even channel it in my posts. Anger is _an entirely appropriate response here_, thank you very much. > [@BigT](#): > > In this thread in particular, I see her lashing out at HMS for his argument that the students may not have the same meaning in mind of a certain word that she does. But, in a later post, she admits that they may not have that same understanding. But then, right after that, she has another post lashing out at HMS for making that claim. First, I havenā€™t ā€œlashed outā€ at HMS. I have pointed out that the word ā€œIntifadaā€, in the context of the Arab/Israeli conflict, _means something specific_ - the First and Second Intifadas, which were waves of terror attacks that killed thousands of Israelis and injured tens of thousands. Like I said before, it is true that the word ā€œIntifadaā€ could mean ā€œuprisingā€ and could in theory refer to nonviolent resistance against Israel. But that _ **is not the reality** _. Likewise, it is true that _in theory_ any violence being called for could be intended only for legitimate targets of resistance. But again, in historical reslity, (reality I lived through by the way; I was a child in Israel for the duration of the second Intifada) this violence was for the most part _not_ directed at Israeli military and security forces, but at Israeli civilians; so again, _ **in our reality, in the context of Israel/Palestine, Intifada refers to violent terrorism against Israeli civilians** _. Period, end of story. And further, even if hypothetically it _was_ referring to resistance against Israeli security personnel, _those people are in Israel_. The only people that a ā€œglobalā€ Intifada could target who are not in Israel are expats like me, and non-Israeli Jewish people. What I acknowledged is that a suburban white American, 20 years old and in college, running around chanting ā€œGlobalize the Intifadaā€ is most likely not actually going to go and firebomb a synagogue. He may even be ignorant of the meaning of the phrase ā€œGlobalize the Intifadaā€. But this is **not an excuse**. It does not change the phrase ā€œGlobalize the Intifadaā€ away from being a call to violence. Further, I worry that over time, normalizing this sort of language will normalize what it refers to. That the Intifadas, or Oct 7, will be seen by some not as heinous terrorist attacks but as legitimate acts of resistance. > [@BigT](#): > > Thereā€™s also the post that spawned the ATMB thread. I think I already posted about my issues with that one. But the main thing Iā€™ll note here is that the person she had angrily responded to had repeatedly clarified that she had misunderstood what he meant. But she seemed unwilling to listen to this. The person said I misunderstood them, but refused to explain what they actually meant, and then repeatedly did what I accused them of doing in the first place (accusing Israel of ethnically cleansing Gaza and trying to commit a genocide there). They were mod noted for doing so and told to take those kinds of claims to the Pit, and since then theyā€™ve continued to walk right up to the edge of making these claims without quite doing so. So I _really_ donā€™t think there was any misunderstanding there, but if that poster would like to clarify how their posts could possibly be anything other than an accusation that Israel is engaging in genocide, I am (and always have been) all ears. Iā€™m not sure why you think I was refusing to listen. I repeatedly asked that poster to clarify what they meant, if they did not mean to accuse Israel of genocide; I never got an answer (probably because they _are_ accusing Israel of genocide but just cannot say so (again) in that thread). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/136 "2023-12-08T14:34:37Z")
Oh, and yes, I am a man. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/137 "2023-12-08T15:17:33Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I have sensed that anger too. Maybe combative is a better term. I get a sense that @Babale feels he is the keeper of the facts/truth on this topic and doesnā€™t brook much disagreement. There are exactly two things I get combative about, and really, itā€™s just one. The first is the implication that Israel is an illegitimate state or should not exist. The reason I object to this so harshly is the existential implications of such a statement. I have written at length about the intolerable existence of the Jewish people before the State of Israel came about. And let me emphasize, it was intolerable _before the Holocaust_, which is why Zionism predates the Holocaust by many decades. Further, _only those members of my family who recognized this and embraced the Zionist project early survived the Holocaust_. From this, we learn that it is insufficient to be reactive here. Reactivity ensures for us Jews the same existence we had before 1948. That is unacceptable. Since itā€™s Hanukkah, a brief historical aside. You often hear it said that we have been exiled for 2,000 years. Itā€™s even in our national anthem: [ā€¦] _We have not yet lost our Hope_ _Our hope is 2,000 years old_ _To be a free people in our homeland_ [ā€¦] And yes, arouns 2,000 years ago is when the Hasmonean dynasty ruled over a Jewish kingdom in what is today Israel. But the Hasmonean dynasty was free (if we are generous and include its time as a Greek and a Roman autonomous client) for just under 100 years. Before that we were under oppressive Greek rule. And before that we were under somewhat more permissive Persian rule, but we still were not _free_. And before that we were exiled under Babylonian ruleā€¦ etc etc etc. We have a very _long_ and very _painful_ history as the subjects of other people, and the victims of other people. The promise of Zionism (and the reason why Zionism is an inherently secular movement that greatly angered religious figures back in the day) is that אם ×Ŗ×Øצו אין זו אגדה. _If you will it, it is no dream_ is the common translation. We do not need to wait for God or a Messiah to deliver the Jewish people; we can be our own deliverance. We can end that painful history and write a new one - a bright, hopeful history. And as @Alessan so eloquently said many times - we are _never_ going back. So that is why I will be _combative_ against arguments that delegitimize Israel. I will not tolerate rhetoric that could be used to justify existential attacks on the Jewish state, because returning the Jewish people to a stateless status means throwing us to the wolves yet again. And that brings me to the second thing I will be combative about - accusations that Israel is committing a genocide. These sorts of accusations have been used against Israel in order to try and delegitimize its existence since 1948. These accusations are a tool - a tool in turning the west against Israel; a tool in galvanizing the Palestinian people to reject any sort of two state solution. I donā€™t think the people repeating these accusations here know that, or understand that. But just like chanting ā€œGlobalize the Intifadaā€ in ignorance is still harmful, echoing these accusations here - accusations which I have called ā€œBlood Libelā€ because they serve the exact same purpose of delegitimize the existence of Jews, whether in a ghetto or in a state - is _ **extremely harmful** _, and I will challenge them with all my might. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/138 "2023-12-08T15:33:07Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > You often hear it said that we have been exiled for 2,000 years. I Another aspect of liberal antisemitism\* is that Jewish history is not allowed to inform the Jewish present. Critical race theory is an incredibly useful lense for understanding the past and the present. But when it comes to our history and generational trauma, itā€™s ā€œah yes, well, all of that was bad but it was so long ago.ā€ This contrasts with conservatives who just apply that ā€œyeesh let it go alreadyā€ doctrine to literally everybody. The cultural memory of Jewish people is longer and more painful than most, and itā€™s impossible to talk about Israel today without giving credence to the million or so yesterdays we still remember, and the deeply real truth that history will **always** circle back around to murdering us. Anyway, chalk me up to somebody else whoā€™s been appreciating @Babale articulating quite a lot of what I cannot. If you think he sounds too angry, all I can really suggest is that you check your fucking privilege. \*Understand that when I talk about liberal antisemitism, itā€™s not as a way of saying all liberals are antisemitic. Iā€™m talking about the way **systemic antisemitism** tends to manifest in liberal thought. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/139 "2023-12-08T15:36:59Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > If Babaleā€™s anything like me, heā€™s been living in a state of constant simmering rage for the past two months. It has been a whirlwind of emotions, thatā€™s for sure. Anger, incredible sadnessā€¦ but also at times immense pride. People in Israel have come together to help one another in ways that really restore my faith in humanity. Itā€™s a bittersweet emotion, because usually theyā€™re coming together over some immensely heartbreaking tragedy - but there have been some amazing stories that really remind me what is being fought for here. Itā€™s a shame it takes such a disaster to remind us that weā€™re all Israeli. > [@](#): > > The fact that he is capable of coming here again and again and making relatively calm, rational arguments is nothing short of amazing. God knows, I canā€™t do it. You have posted fewer posts than I have, but every single one has been incredibly solid. > [@MrDibble](#): > > The content-free ā€œButwhatabout Hamasā€¦ā€ sniping from Macgiver, on the other hand, was getting quite tiresome, but they seemed to have tailed off a bit. Yes, I agree. I also criticize strongly the attitude of some who seem to want to fight Arabs vicariously through us. Iā€™ve always found that kind of ā€œsupportā€ to be much more disturbing than encouraging. Iā€™m also deeply disturbed by the End of Days Christian whackjobs who ā€œsupportā€ us insofar as they think we are setting up their prophecy, only to die at the appropriate time; those people are even more disturbing (though thankfully we donā€™t seem to get many of them here). This is really off topic, but a couple of years ago someone made a documentary in Hebrew about this crowd, and it made the rounds among my Israeli Facebook friends; they were as weirded out as you might expect (this is not something thatā€™s very well known in Israel, actually). > [@MrDibble](#): > > Babale has been angry, and snarky, but completely understandably. Heā€™s also good at admitting when heā€™s overstepped. > > Iā€™ve been on the receiving end of it the last few weeks and have no issue with it (when appropriate to the forum). > > We should be able to disagree about aspects of the situation, and thatā€™s generally been how things have proceeded, at least as far as Babale and Alessan are concerned. Absolutely agreed, and you are someone I enjoy debating with even when we disagree. Iā€™ve learned a lot over the years from your point of view. > [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Iā€™m okay with this, because it is helping me to understand how personal this is to some people. Iā€™m not saying @Babale is the ultimate arbiter of truth in this situation, I am saying he is representing his perspective well. That includes being pissed off and combative, because you know some people feel that way, and itā€™s given me insight into why some people feel that way. Does anybody here doubt _why_ he feels that way? No. Heā€™s made it perfectly clear. Exactly. This is a situation where anger _is the appropriate response_. Being non-combative is not the highest virtue imaginable. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173/140 "2023-12-08T15:42:55Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Iā€™m also deeply disturbed by the End of Days Christian whackjobs who ā€œsupportā€ us insofar as they think we are setting up their prophecy, only to die at the appropriate time; those people are even more disturbing (though thankfully we donā€™t seem to get many of them here). I was going to mention that when it was mentioned upthread about Republicans in Congress getting mad about anti-Semitism. Evangelical Christians tend to be highly supportive of the state of Israel. The university uproar may be cynical liberal bashing for some, but there are a lot of Christian conservatives who are sincere in their condemnation of anti-Semitism to the point of religious fervor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-antisemitism-from-these-college-heads/994173.md?page=8)