# What is Gordon Ramsay's body count? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 5, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351 "2013-02-05T02:07:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/1 "2013-02-05T02:07:03Z")
I was talking to a supposed top chef (not to be confused with a TV Top Chef) and the conversation got around to Gordon Ramsay. My customer said, “He’s a prick.” I had to agree with that because Ramsey very much seems like a prick’s prick, but I said that I had seen a couple of his _Kitchen Nightmares_ shows and found Ramsay to be the very model of restraint because I would’ve killed those restauranteurs while dialing the Health Department. He then said, “In the past few years four people who were on Ramsay’s shows have killed themselves.” Unlike the man’s endless namedropping (The Bushes? The Bin Ladens? I can’t remember everybody he’s fed) this registered so I tried to find out more about his victims. So far I have only found two: Joseph Cerniglia and Rachel Brown, but those are just Americans and that just takes us up to 2010. Have there been more? Is he a serial inspirer of suicides? ETA: He didn’t buy anything yet but I put a note in his file for the next person who calls him to NOT get him talking. Which may be impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/2 "2013-02-05T02:51:41Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I was talking to a supposed top chef (not to be confused with a TV Top Chef) and the conversation got around to Gordon Ramsay. My customer said, “He’s a prick.” I had to agree with that because Ramsey very much seems like a prick’s prick, but I said that I had seen a couple of his _Kitchen Nightmares_ shows and found Ramsay to be the very model of restraint because I would’ve killed those restauranteurs while dialing the Health Department. He then said, “In the past few years four people who were on Ramsay’s shows have killed themselves.” Unlike the man’s endless namedropping (The Bushes? The Bin Ladens? I can’t remember everybody he’s fed) this registered so I tried to find out more about his victims. So far I have only found two: Joseph Cerniglia and Rachel Brown, but those are just Americans and that just takes us up to 2010. Have there been more? Is he a serial inspirer of suicides? > > ETA: He didn’t buy anything yet but I put a note in his file for the next person who calls him to NOT get him talking. Which may be impossible. …his body count is zero. Ramsay is not responsible for the deaths of Cerniglia or Brown. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/3 "2013-02-05T03:19:27Z")
You really are not being any fun tonight, **Banquet Bear**. I’m looking for scandal, character assassination, and unverified factoids, not an understanding and open-minded look at mental illness. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/4 "2013-02-05T03:30:55Z")
I might find his tv programs a little more watchable if it weren’t for the perpetually constipated look on his face. Sort like watching “Maude” all over again. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/5 "2013-02-05T04:36:48Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I would’ve killed those restauranteurs while dialing the Health Department. Restaurateurs. But I agree with your sentiment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/6 "2013-02-05T04:38:07Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > You really are not being any fun tonight, **Banquet Bear**. I’m looking for scandal, character assassination, and unverified factoids, not an understanding and open-minded look at mental illness. 😉 …there is nothing remotely funny about suicide. Both of the deaths were pretty tragic and had nothing to do with Ramsey. If you really want to know what happened there is a fair amount of information out there on the net. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/7 "2013-02-05T04:39:40Z")
> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > I might find his tv programs a little more watchable if it weren’t for the perpetually constipated look on his face. Sort like watching “Maude” all over again. He had to get plastic surgery to look that bad. :eek: > [@gigi](#): > > Restaurateurs. But I agree with your sentiment. 🙂 My spell checker has seen it both ways. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/8 "2013-02-05T04:44:55Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …there is nothing remotely funny about suicide. As one who has seriously considered it many times, sometimes with the intent to make the method as silly as possible, I did not know that. Note to self: Suicide is not funny. Check with **Banquet Bear** if accidental death and dismemberment are still funny because I will need to rethink my entire sense of humor if they are not. ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/9 "2013-02-05T04:48:43Z")
He’s a prick’s prick’s prick; a preter-super-prick, if you will. - his metaprickery knows no bounds. His was a failed soccer player, the team he supported and played for (though he somewhat exaggerated his career with them as he was never actually signed to them) are one of the most sectarian and bigoted teams in soccer. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/10 "2013-02-05T05:02:36Z")
And he’s apparently BFFs with Jeremy Clarkson, but the universe doesn’t implode when they are in the same room. Maybe if you add Piers Morgan to the mix… ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/11 "2013-02-05T05:06:22Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > [snip] because I will need to rethink my entire sense of humor [/snip] …yeah you should. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/12 "2013-02-05T05:10:30Z")
I don’t know why, but I started watching an episode once. It was a two hour long episode. The family hamburger joint was a train wreck of hazardous materials flown into with CDC level 4 samples of Ebola crossed with avian flu. I could not take my eyes off of the episode. I wanted to kill all involved. Ramsey mediated the compulsive idiocy better than any professional mediator I’ve worked with, and that numbers in the hundreds. In this episode he was an f’in genius of diplomacy. The promo spots for the show were cut to make it look like he was aggravating the problem. Maybe the other shows are that way. ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/13 "2013-02-05T05:43:09Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And he’s apparently BFFs with Jeremy Clarkson, but the universe doesn’t implode when they are in the same room. Maybe if you add Piers Morgan to the mix… I hear that they are golf partners and frequently play Pol Pot and Justin Bieber. When this happens they force Richard Hammond to caddy for both of them. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/14 "2013-02-05T17:19:54Z")
I like Gordon Ramsay. The only times he really acts like a prick are in the two Nightmare shows and Hell’s Kitchen (haven’t seen much of Top Chef). And most of the time, those jerks on the nightmare shows deserve what they get and eventually lighten the hell up and realize he’s trying to help. To see another side of him, check out the show (Great Escape) where he travels the world, sampling the cuisine, and then attempting to prepare it the way the locals do after just the one taste. He’s got some humility in him (he wrecked a car once right in front of the whole village) and it’s funny to watch the locals make bad faces at what he has prepared for them and see his reaction to that. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/15 "2013-02-05T17:24:20Z")
FYI,\*\* Sister Vigilante\*\*: Ramsay doesn’t do Top Chef. Ramsay’s shows are either on Fox or BBC. Top Chef is a Bravo production. ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/16 "2013-02-05T17:24:29Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …there is nothing remotely funny about suicide. Both of the deaths were pretty tragic and had nothing to do with Ramsey. If you really want to know what happened there is a fair amount of information out there on the net. How many feminist does it take to screw in a lightbulb? For some reason, this post reminded me of that joke. Riddle, actually. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/17 "2013-02-05T18:19:48Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > My spell checker has seen it both ways. 😛 I’m clinging to restaurateur because of the cool derivation but I know it is being slowly replaced. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/18 "2013-02-05T19:46:02Z")
> [@VOW](#): > > FYI,\*\* Sister Vigilante\*\*: > > Ramsay doesn’t do Top Chef. Ramsay’s shows are either on Fox or BBC. Top Chef is a Bravo production. > ~VOW Thanks, maybe I’m thinking of Masterchef. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/19 "2013-02-05T20:09:37Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …there is nothing remotely funny about suicide. [If only they had known. . .](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Comedians_who_committed_suicide) ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351/20 "2013-02-05T20:23:42Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > …I would’ve killed those restauranteurs while dialing the Health Department. If you have dead bodies in your kitchen, you will _definitely_ get written up by the Health Department. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-gordon-ramsays-body-count/649351.md?page=2)