# What is happening to this woman in this video? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 26, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412 "2010-04-26T16:30:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/21 "2010-04-27T12:37:48Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > It could be many things, yes God can give one extreme pleasure that can even be way beyond what we consider a organism, OTOH it may have been a incubus trying to distract, or even reinforce that message. Blimey. So it could be God, or Satan. Is there any way to tell the difference? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/22 "2010-04-27T12:51:21Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > OTOH it may have been a incubus trying to distract, or even reinforce that message. Incubus? WTF!? That’s crazy talk. Anyone with half a brain could see that it was a succubus. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/23 "2010-04-27T13:18:22Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Blimey. So it could be God, or Satan. Is there any way to tell the difference? Yes, the gift of distinguishing between the spirits (1 Cor 12:10), which is basically God tipping a person off to who that was from. In human effort, not a chance. Using dark power, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/24 "2010-04-27T13:21:31Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Yes, the gift of distinguishing between the spirits… What if there are geniune and bogus versions of this gift, and they too are impossible to tell apart? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/25 "2010-04-27T13:30:38Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > What if there are geniune and bogus versions of this gift, There is > [@](#): > > and they too are impossible to tell apart? If the 2 gifts are impossible to tell apart then someone could get themselves in big trouble, like a jeweler not being able to tell a diamond from a cubic zircona \. Best then to get another line of work. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/26 "2010-04-27T13:35:10Z")
OT: was this a valedictorian? They allowed them to make a religious speech on stage during graduation? Oh, wait … it’s Texas. I understand. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/27 "2010-04-27T13:35:25Z")
I think you’re still missing the point. To take your analogy - how can the jeweller _know_ whether he’s having trouble telling the difference between diamond and CZ - if he can’t tell the difference, how does he know he’s wrong? If he has to rely on someone else’s judgment, and that other person could also be wrong, or worse, could be lying, how does he know if he’s wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/28 "2010-04-27T13:39:51Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > “iloveJesus420”? What the hell kind of username is that? > > “I want a user name that conveys my religious fervor, but also suggests that I might be amenable to torching one.” The other video that I watched posted by that user involved Christians acting like assholes; this one involved a Christian acting like a loon; you do the math. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/29 "2010-04-27T14:53:53Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I think you’re still missing the point. To take your analogy - how can the jeweller _know_ whether he’s having trouble telling the difference between diamond and CZ - if he can’t tell the difference, how does he know he’s wrong? Perhaps at the time he can’t. but he will find out over time when people get back to him about it. He will find out that he is being taken advantage of, and losing money. The same thing, if you are deceived, spirits can and will take advantage of that and you will notice loss over time, not necessarily money. Or God can just come and explain it in a way that you understand. > [@](#): > > If he has to rely on someone else’s judgment, and that other person could also be wrong, or worse, could be lying, how does he know if he’s wrong? Again this person will eventually notice something is not right, seek answers and eventually seek God for the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/30 "2010-04-27T19:09:14Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Incubus? WTF!? That’s crazy talk. Anyone with half a brain could see that it was a succubus. or an autobus! ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/31 "2010-04-27T19:27:02Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > OT: was this a valedictorian? They allowed them to make a religious speech on stage during graduation? > > Oh, wait … it’s Texas. I understand. What’s wrong with that? Are religious speeches generally disallowed? It may have been in poor taste, sure, but a part of me wants to believe that after a four-year college education, people would be able to deal with differences in belief. My reaction? “Ooooook. Movin’ right along…” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/32 "2010-04-27T19:52:47Z")
“only in america” ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/33 "2010-04-27T20:18:51Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Perhaps at the time he can’t. but he will find out over time when people get back to him about it. He will find out that he is being taken advantage of, and losing money. The same thing, if you are deceived, spirits can and will take advantage of that and you will notice loss over time, not necessarily money. Or God can just come and explain it in a way that you understand. And you’ll be able to be sure it really is God that time? How? ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/34 "2010-04-27T22:02:08Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > What’s wrong with that? Are religious speeches generally disallowed? > > It may have been in poor taste, sure, but a part of me wants to believe that after a four-year college education, people would be able to deal with differences in belief. > > My reaction? “Ooooook. Movin’ right along…” In public school events where attendance is mandated, promotion of religion, even if by a student, has been deemed government sponsorship of religion. For example, [Nicholas Lassonde v. Pleasanton Unified School District, et.al](http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/320/979/615589/) ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/35 "2010-04-29T00:31:26Z")
> [@Manduck](#): > > or an autobus! Or an autolycus! ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/36 "2010-04-29T03:58:03Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > In public school events where attendance is mandated, promotion of religion, even if by a student, has been deemed government sponsorship of religion. > > For example, [Nicholas Lassonde v. Pleasanton Unified School District, et.al](http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/320/979/615589/) How interesting. What happens if someone gives one unannounced? ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/37 "2010-04-29T04:27:36Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > How interesting. What happens if someone gives one unannounced? They get a note in their permanent record. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/38 "2010-04-29T05:17:57Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > They get a note in their permanent record. And a thumbs up in their eternal record? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/39 "2010-04-29T05:31:50Z")
Pentacostal? Penta-gone. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412/40 "2010-04-29T06:32:12Z")
I’ve been a Charismatic for about 33 years now and that was… odd. Long story short, she worked herself into being emotionally overwhelmed. I have no problem with a prayer, even a religious message from a student, but she was just over the top. Unless she actually hurt herself or seemed to be having a seizure, I doubt an ambulance was needed. If her family were present, I think they could deal with the situation. Unless of course they were ecstatically gyrating in prayer out in the audience. Young lady, there’s a time & a place for religious ecstasy. It ain’t at college graduation! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-happening-to-this-woman-in-this-video/537412.md?page=3)